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 Re: The German Mouthpiece Experience
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2015-12-05 06:31

Hey Dan,


Well I am literally only on the second full practice day with this idea in mind.
It is a long term experiment that will require also receiving German Legere
reeds (should be here shortly) to add to the mix.


OK, the German thing is not (now that I have used it in one rehearsal
already) completely effortless. I am still utilizing my handy leather pad
under my lower lip. It is, however, a completely different feel. There
is quite a bit less effort to range through dynamics which I am still getting
used to.


There is also a little intonation issue. Truth be told I sent the Viotto back
after just a 30 minute trial (at that moment in time I wasn't looking to buy).
I am now using a few old Wurlitzer mouthpieces of similar facing. What I
recall of the Viotto, it was a bit lower than the standard Vandorens,
but more in line than the Wulitzers I'm using now. In conversation with
ESM, they told me that they do NOT consider the two bores (French
and German compatible). To address this issue ESM makes their most
popular German mouthpiece available with a French bore. You'd better
believe I just ordered one through Madison Band supply. It will take a
month or so to get it though. After that experiment I will most likely
order a Viotto N1 to add to my collection. It is that mouthpiece's sound
that 'haunts my dreams!'

There is NO comparison to the M15 (one of the closer standard French
mouthpiece in my estimation). You still approach the Vandorens (no matter
which) with the same French/American embouchure approach (much more
support all around than the German approach).

And the real kicker with these really closed German mouthpieces is that you
are supposed to use them with weaker reeds (generally a White Master 2 1/2 or
3 at the very most).


In your case, this may be a beneficial but you still "feel the effect" on your
lower lip!




...............Paul Aviles



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