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 Re: The German Mouthpiece Experience
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2015-11-20 16:55

Yeah I agree with that premise 100%. But that is exactly the point. We see that in the compromise on the Boehm between the flat low E and the sharp middle B. Fingers and embouchure vs. fingers.


No one from the sympathetic side of the equation ever mentions that the throat F is fingered like our throat E, only adding the second to last side key. This means if you move from first line Eb to first space F, your right index finger must slide UP to the next side key (one of the more awkward Oehler fingering glitches).


There is no alternate middle B. You always have to use BOTH pinkies for that note, resulting in more sliding (that's why there are rollers folks) and more pinky agility.


For me the "problem" was always how similar the fingerings are. Getting confused can be a real issue.


But the thrust of this thread is that there is a WHOLE UNIVERSE of issues relating to the embouchure and use of air which is also completely different. A lot of top players have stumbled on this one (or cheated, using their Boehm mouthpieces on their German horns and wondering why they could never achieve the sonic goal they set out to achieve).








................Paul Aviles
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