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 Re: The German Mouthpiece Experience
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2015-11-20 08:07

Lots of interesting thoughts above........thanks guys.



The German Legeres are not only a current product, they are becoming the standard for European players.



One more clarification: the Viotto N1 is made for the German clarinet. The ONLY special modification is that the last few millimeters of the tenon are about one millimeter smaller in diameter so it can FIT into the socket of a French barrel. I think Mr. Bas de Jong would want everyone to know that his mouthpiece just simply "works" on French bore clarinets. And it allows us French clarinet players to experience the "ease" of blowing with little if any embouchure effort that German players have always had. This in itself is a bit of work in that we who have never played this way before can find the feeling quite disconcerting (this despite the wonderful sonic results).



I personally don't feel the German clarinet is an easy transition even if we speak of the fingering differences by themselves. Think about all the odd fingerings we pick up over the years for specific passages. Those exist in the German system too but how many years will it take to learn them all?


The bottom line is that the Boehm approach was meant to make things easier all along. I also feel there will never be a rush to go backwards. Only those amongst us pursuing some "ideal" will be the customers of the Oehler. Look at the rising popularity of Boehm in Germany. There are more heated debates amongst sections of purists still intrenched in orchestras but feeling the pressure to allow newer players the freedom to use Boehm in their sections.


Finally, I still insist that the German reed is species specific to the German mouthpiece design. The cut is not just narrow, it is also cut more like a chisel with a flatter profile (less of a curve) to the vamp from side to side, and it is a much shorter vamp. All these differences make the German reed incompatible with a French mouthpiece. Now, as some have said there are players willing to make it work. All I have to say about that is you can force a square peg into a round hole if you want but it doesn't make it the recommended method of filling a round hole.









.....................Paul Aviles



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