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 Gold gel/crayon?
Author: ClarinetRobt 
Date:   2015-11-05 21:33

I've read several threads concerning "re-golding" the engraved brand label on your horn. I couldn't find a definitive (if that's even possible) answer from the board. What product have you guys found to refurbish those label areas for a do-it-yourself-er?

~Robt L Schwebel
Mthpc: Behn Vintage
Lig: Ishimori, Behn Delrin
Reed: Legere French Cut 3.75/4, Behn Brio 4
Horns: Uebel Superior (Bb,A), Ridenour Lyrique, Buffet R13 (Eb)

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 Re: Gold gel/crayon?
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2015-11-05 22:23

If you're considering redoing the logos on your Buffet, then you're in for a tough time as they're stamped very lightly so the results won't be successful unless you re-engrave the logos with a sharp scriber by hand to make the lines deeper for the gold paste to take better.

I use Liberon gilt cream http://i.vandykes.com/images/xl/204335.jpg

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: Gold gel/crayon?
Author: Steven Ocone 
Date:   2015-11-06 04:03

I don't do that sort of restoration any more. I have a crayon from a woodwind repair supply company. It would get into the grain around the logo. I suppose one could seal the grain around the logo. then clean out the logo and apply the crayon.

Steve Ocone


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 Re: Gold gel/crayon?
Author: Silversorcerer 
Date:   2015-11-06 09:25

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 Re: Gold gel/crayon?
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2015-11-06 10:59
Attachment:  selmerctfullboehm.jpg (330k)

Gold paste or crayon will inevitably get into the open surface grain, pores or vessels around the logo, but it's easily removed with solvent on a cloth or cotton bud and picking out any stubborn bits with a sharp needle or scalpel blade tip.

Large flat logos that have been stamped on shallowly like Leblanc Concerto, etc. aren't easy to restore as they were originally stamped on with adhesive foil, so filling them with gold paste/crayon won't achieve the same result as heat activated adhesive gold foil. You could apply gold leaf to redo them, but that is a very time consuming and skilled process and chances are it'll wear off easily due to how shallow the logos are and are in places that are handled during assembly.

The easiest logos to redo are ones that have been stamped or engraved deeply with crisp edges to them. The logos on my old CT were easy to redo and are still legible now. See attachment of how they looked when they were redone.

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: Gold gel/crayon?
Author: ClarinetRobt 
Date:   2015-11-06 20:04

Looks like I'll leave well enough alone. Thanks for the input.
Chris P...your Selmer is stunning!

~Robt L Schwebel
Mthpc: Behn Vintage
Lig: Ishimori, Behn Delrin
Reed: Legere French Cut 3.75/4, Behn Brio 4
Horns: Uebel Superior (Bb,A), Ridenour Lyrique, Buffet R13 (Eb)

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 Re: Gold gel/crayon?
Author: Lelia Loban 2017
Date:   2015-11-07 00:26

Trying to re-engrave the logo to make it deeper is a delicate business. A slight slip can damage the logo. I don't try that job myself, even though I'm a retired stained glass designer-builder with a lot of experience inscribing on metal and glass, because inscribing on wood requires subtly different techniques than the ones I've learned. If I did decide to try to re-engrave clarinet logos, first I'd go to the woodworkers' shop and buy some small samples (or beg some scrap) of the closest wood I could get to grenadilla, and I'd practice, practice, practice.

Lelia
http://www.scoreexchange.com/profiles/Lelia_Loban
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