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Author: mddds
Date: 2015-09-30 01:05
hi all,
i did a search but didn't come up with anything regarding this subject.
anyone have experience/comments on a clarinet with rings on the upper joint and the tenon on the bottom of the barrel? so in other words, the connection between the upper joint/barrel are switched around.
is there a name for this kind of system?
i was told that this improves intonation, but i'm not sure how that would work.
thanks!
-CK
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2015-09-30 02:11
I've seen photos of a set of reform Boehms where the barrels on both instruments had a socket and tenon instead of two sockets, so all joints from the mouthpiece to lower joint all had a tenon on the lower end.
The only thing this will do is when the barrel is pulled out, the gap created between the end of the tenon and the bottom of the socket is not all that far from the speaker tube (so it's effectively within the top joint bore), so not sure how that will affect things acoustically whereas on a standard clarinet the gap is a lot further away from the speaker tube. Probably not much in it to be honest - if it plays fine, then that's all that matters.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
Post Edited (2015-09-30 02:11)
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2015-09-30 04:53
According to the Rossi website, his clarinets use the small barrel concept to so that intonation is not perturbed as much when pulling out (putting this effect FURTHER from the highest tone holes), much like German clarinets.
If that is true, then the clarinet described by "CK" should have a rather pronounced difference in tuning (the higher notes being flattened far more than those further down the horn) when pulling out the barrel.
It should be worse.
...............Paul Aviles
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Author: mddds
Date: 2015-10-01 10:55
in reading paul's response, perhaps i should have noted that this was a wurlitzer oehler clarinet.
sorry for the confusion.
im still having a hard time understanding how intonation will improve.... oh well.
i wonder if this is a known design amongst german clarinets - or a prototype.
the different sized barrels must be expensive to replace, unless P&S makes one of this design!
-CK
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Author: Jeroen
Date: 2015-10-01 13:05
Leitner & Kraus makes clarinets with inverse barrel tenon.
They claim for better intonation.
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Author: modernicus
Date: 2015-10-01 22:30
I've often wondered why the barrel joint isn't actually lower as a matter of custom...Of course I'm no instrument designer, but one would think a more even spacing of joints would even out the tuning when pulling out a bit. Perhaps this causes other problems which then have to be solved. I suppose the other extreme are those clarinets that were made with an integrated barrel. I also saw an old Albert Eb clarinet for auction that had a telescoping section in the lower part of it with sliding mechanism connections. Even though adoption can be slow, makers and designers never stop experimenting.
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