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Author: cyclopathic
Date: 2015-09-14 19:33
what are the issues with covering oboe parts on effer, besides obvious (don't do it, transposition, getting oboeish sound)?
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Author: KenJarczyk
Date: 2015-09-14 20:58
Why not invest in the VERY affordable Ridenour Lyrique C clarinet? You will love it! Great intonation, super sweet sound, extremely comfortable to play! I cover a lot of theater-pit oboe on this horn!
Ken Jarczyk
Woodwinds Specialist
Eb, C, Bb, A & Bass Clarinets
Soprano, Alto, Tenor & Baritone Saxophones
Flute, Alto Flute, Piccolo
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Author: kdk
Date: 2015-09-14 22:31
cyclopathic wrote:
> what are the issues with covering oboe parts on effer, besides
> obvious (don't do it, transposition, getting oboeish sound)?
What other issues are you looking for? Seems like those are enough. But why on effer and not on a regular soprano (Bb) clarinet if a C isn't available?
Karl
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Author: johng ★2017
Date: 2015-09-15 01:59
I can see some small usefulness about it considering the two both have penetrating tone qualities, but the Eb is mostly that way in its upper register, unlike an oboe which has power in both registers. I can remember times in my school bands where the director would use a muted trumpet rather than having a weak oboe player play it. Mostly, though I agree with the 1st two responses.
John Gibson, Founder of JB Linear Music, www.music4woodwinds.com
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Author: ClaV
Date: 2015-09-15 02:34
Since the question of oboe substitution is brought up, would soprano sax be the best option from single reeds by the virtue of a conical bore?
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Author: kdk
Date: 2015-09-15 05:09
ClaV wrote:
> Since the question of oboe substitution is brought up, would
> soprano sax be the best option from single reeds by the virtue
> of a conical bore?
Depending on the part, especially the range, you might think about a trumpet with a straight mute. I don't think that among woodwind instruments there are any that are better to use. The mutes trumpet approaches the nasality and focus of an oboe, but it doesn't go as high comfortably and unless the trumpet player is very good it may not have quite the flexibility.
There's nothing inherently bad about using a soprano sax or anything else in the woodwind family. Just don't do it thinking that you're getting close in any way to impersonating a characteristic oboe tone and accept the substitute tone quality for itself.
Karl
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Author: cyclopathic
Date: 2015-09-15 15:05
ClaV wrote:
> Since the question of oboe substitution is brought up, would
> soprano sax be the best option from single reeds by the virtue
> of a conical bore?
This is what conventional wisdom says.
Not for lack of trying but unfortunately we do not sound oboeish at all on soprano. It sounds like sax even with VD SL3 and softer reeds. Part of it being curved not straight but surely your friendly operator is to take blame. So after trying Bb, sop and effer, Eb gives most oboe-like sound. Not necessarily very nasal can't mistake for anything else, more reserved/refined kind of oboe. Very passable to my ears btw.
This is temp fill in, so buying C just to avoid transposition is out of question. If had to go that route will probably get C soprano. Unfortunately the one we looked at needed too much work, and being so old would likely have intonation issues to deal with.
And it is an opportunity to use Eb and practice transposing C to Eb.
I was more looking to get 1st hand comments, like "this and that would be difficult" or "such transitions will be very awkward" etc. Suppose noone was crazy enough to give it a try?
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