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 Foreign Musicians in France
Author: Alexis 
Date:   2015-08-19 12:19

Hi all,

It's my impression that French jobs tend to go to French musicians, or at the very least, those who studied in France. While my research has not been exhaustive, it does seem to be the case in the bigger orchestras with fairly few exceptions (who tend to be italian...) Can anyone confirm or deny this?

Best wishes
Alex

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 Re: Foreign Musicians in France
Author: JonTheReeds 
Date:   2015-08-19 17:36

Unless your study is statistically valid in terms of confidence levels and sampling method I would hesitate to make such wide assertions

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 Re: Foreign Musicians in France
Author: Alexis 
Date:   2015-08-19 18:05

I'm not entirely sure if you're serious....but if you are...I'm not claiming scientific validity, merely an impression . In fact, I was hoping someone more familiar with the music scene in France could give me some anecdotal evidence.

Periodically jobs come up in France, which I don't audition for based on this possibly incorrect belief. Auditions are a big expense of preparation and money, particularly abroad, so if there is a very low chance of getting the job, beyond the already competitive nature of the audition, I'm not willing to make the sacrifice.

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 Re: Foreign Musicians in France
Author: kevinbarry 
Date:   2015-08-21 19:32

Not clarinet-related but France-related. My best friend of seventy years lives permanently in France and his son speaks perfect French, although technically he was born in England. He continues to have problems getting work when this fact comes out at the interview. His surname and given name is a giveaway and probably because of this they ask about his family.

He is in computing but such anti-foreigner prejudice seems to be something of an issue in France. I am told it is technically illegal in the EU to discriminate in this fashion but apparently it is not uncommon.

I do not know about the music scene itself.

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 Re: Foreign Musicians in France
Author: Silversorcerer 
Date:   2015-08-21 20:22

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 Re: Foreign Musicians in France
Author: sonicbang 
Date:   2015-08-22 03:00

France is full of people from Africa and Middle East. I think inhabitant French poeple slowly start to protect themselves from becoming a minority in their own country. It's quite understandable. But yes, this is technically illegal in the EU...

I was in France for almost 4 months this year. I only speak English and German but I couldn't use any of them there. So I guess speaking perfect French is always required when applying to a job. But when you don't speak it well and come from another country, I think chances are zero.

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