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Author: lenc
Date: 2015-07-15 17:47
I don't recall where I read this:
"...for the plastic clarinet, the bore is typically bigger to allow the air to easily pass through to make a sound."
Does that mean a Yahama YCL250 has a bigger bore and easier to make a sound than a Buffet E11?
Thanks for your help!
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2015-07-15 18:19
That's right - on small bore clarinets the air doesn't pass through and they don't make any sound at all.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2015-07-15 20:01
No. There is no such correlation whatsoever.
A standard Boehm clarinet can have quite a variation in bore to achieve its sound in different ways, but the majority of top competitors are within a fairly close tolerance.
Much has been made about big bore clarinets having a bigger sound. This is fantasy. The sound of a clarinet is deterimed mostly by the player and to a much lesser degree the combination of elements such as clarinet, mouthpiece, reed, etc.
Find a clarinet that plays well for you. A good starting point is the list of most popular models. Usually the most popular clarinets are popular for a reason - they work.
.................Paul Aviles
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2015-07-15 21:09
Basically a narrow bore on a Bb/A clarinet is anything from around 14.3mm to 14.75mm and larger bores are from around 14.8mm up to 15.2+mm, so it's only fractions of a millimetre.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: ned
Date: 2015-07-16 05:04
''That's right - on small bore clarinets the air doesn't pass through and they don't make any sound at all.''
This is nonsense. If I read you correctly, what you are saying is that small bore clarinets don't make any sound??
If this incorrect, what exactly ARE you saying?
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''Much has been made about big bore clarinets having a bigger sound. This is fantasy.''
I'd more or less agree. I have just taken possession of a small bore Buffet Albert system clarinet. It (to me anyway) seems to have more volume and I daresay, a better tone than my other Buffet Albert (of a similar vintage) which has a larger bore. It seems even better than my Hawkes & Son simple system, which has even again, a slightly bigger bore than the 2nd Buffet.
Figure that out.
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Author: Hank Lehrer
Date: 2015-07-16 05:18
John Kelly, I though that Chris P was making a joke. A little "tongue in cheek." I liked it.
HRL
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Author: Dan Shusta
Date: 2015-07-16 06:33
"They've labelled the socket rings as 'tenon rings' in the diagram which is wrong."
At first I thought you were wrong. I got confused with "metal tenon rings" and "metal tenon caps" which I now see are the same thing.
In the picture, I believe the rings should be labeled: "Socket Metal Rings", "Metal Socket Rings", or simply "Socket Rings".
Post Edited (2015-07-16 07:46)
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Author: chris moffatt
Date: 2015-07-17 22:24
the biggest bore ever in the UK was a man named Malcolm Muggeridge. Much larger than 0.6" unfortunately.
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Author: EaubeauHorn
Date: 2015-07-19 19:48
Bore size can be a big deal in brass instruments. Smaller bores are labeled stuffy by some, but that can also be due to wrap. I have seen only one instance of someone actually needing a larger bore; it was a long term, set-in-her-ways player who could not play on a smaller bore horn because he was unable to change her air supply and would overblow the thing, with very bad results. Tubas in particular come with a very wide range of bore sizes....a larger bore tuba just sucks the air out of my lungs and I can barely play it. I would think bore differences in clarinets are more similar to bore size differences in trumpets, and most simply cannot tell the difference.
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