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Author: LIZZIE
Date: 2001-04-29 00:27
LOL ok weird ? but if someone broke my clarinet i wiould tell them to pay for it no i would not kill them but yes i would be mad
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Author: bob gardner
Date: 2001-04-29 00:52
Kill is a wee bit strong. But I would be P--- O--.
Did someone break your on purpose. Your homeowner insurance may cover the cost of replacement.
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Author: jbutler
Date: 2001-04-29 02:18
I think I would be upset, but that is what insurance is for, isnt' it?
John
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Author: Evan
Date: 2001-04-29 02:55
Yhea i probably would. Especially if they did it on purpose, they would deserve it.
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Author: Corey
Date: 2001-04-29 03:33
what kinda breakage are we talkin about? if it were minor and fixable i would make them pay for it- if it were major i would be very pissed off and would make them buy me a new clarinet-any model i choose
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Author: Mike Irish
Date: 2001-04-29 05:20
It would be upsetting, to think that some one would put themselves low enough to break something that belongs to some one else.... yes it happens every day...
it is ( for all practical purposes ) just a material item.... no different then a car,]
window (*broken by a base ball or an egg ) , or any thing else...... it can be either repaired or replaced...... grantit... it does cost money to have things fixed or replaced, but not worth , as you say, killing over.....
I personally feel, that if some one did do that, they should be mature enough to accept the responsibility of repairing/replacing with like item...
( I know this isnt the real world I am speaking of ) my boys, have replaced a window of a neighbor, when it was broken by a golf ball... they didnt have to say a word, but rather, let the neighbor know what they did, and also let me know after wards... and then got the window fixed.....the neighbor, was a bit shocked at it and really commended them for accepting the consiquences.......
( by the way.... the ball was still on an upward climb when it went thru the window
150 plus, away from where it was hit..... the oldest boy was 11 atthe time... ( wish I could hit them like that ))
mike
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Author: Kim
Date: 2001-04-29 06:04
What do you mean by break? Bend a key, or snap in two? I wouldn't be upset for the first, but for the latter maybe I would. I could always get a replacement though.
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Author: Mandy
Date: 2001-04-29 14:53
No I probably would not kill them but I may be tempted to devise a punishment involving the introduction of the broken clarinet into one or more bodily orrifices simultaniously.
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Author: Danielle
Date: 2001-04-29 16:48
heh. i like mandy's idea. if someone were to destroy my clarinet, they would be in lots of pain, but i wouldn't kill them. Juvenile hall, anyone? I'd make them find (and buy for me! on exactly like it, too...a 64 year old Buffet. I'm a bit possesive...
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Author: William
Date: 2001-04-29 16:54
During a professional summer orchestral rehearsal, a violist accidently backed her chair into my clarinets knocking them off their stand and breaking one of the Ab keys loose from the body. What bothered me most is that she looked around to see what the noise was, giggle at the "funny situation" (me, picking up my instruments) and turned around to continue playing as if "well, its only a clarinet and not some valuable like a violin." Instead of calling Tony Soprano and the boys, I simply packed up, left rehearsal and presented her the bill at the next meeting. Accidents happen, a bit of concern should be shown, but calmer emotions should always prevail--never violence. Insurance is also a good idea, but not the kind you pack under you coat. Reminds me of what one of our students once said when asked by a local TV reporter if "their was any violence in his school?" The student repled, seriously, "we have lots of violins in our school!" Looking at the brighter side is always the best view. Good clarineting, but don't drop it!!!!!!!!
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Author: Kai
Date: 2001-04-29 17:26
if it's too badly damaged, take the chance. Bring her around, take your time and try whatever you have been itching to try. Work out the budget and get a new one! Or maybe a new and better one!
Regards
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Author: Bob Arney
Date: 2001-04-29 17:48
William, as Paul Harvey used to say: "And Now For The Other Half of the Story"> Did she pay up?
Bob A
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Author: Leanne (Kontragirl)
Date: 2001-04-29 19:41
Just a few weeks ago, a bari sax player was in a rush or something and he chucked his bari sax case at my contra case! Well, the instrument was okay, but my mouthpiece and ligature were totally unsalvagable. I know this kid, and I knew I'd never a get a dime out of him, so I tattled on him and my band directors are making him pay for my new mouthpiece, ligature and for a box of reeds. That's about $110 with out bargain shopping. My parents were kind enough to buy me the stuff for now. They paid about $60. Of course, I still haven't been repaid.
But it if would have been my wooden clarinet...I wouldn't KILL anyone. Possibly inflict the same amount of damage on them as they did my clarinet, but never kill. And if they were willing to buy me a new instrument, it just wouldn't be the same, but I would take them up on the deal because Yamaha Allegro's are extremely hard to find in this area.
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Author: Daniel Bouwmeester
Date: 2001-04-29 23:39
If repairable damage, I would do the equivalent damage to the person's body, but ten times worse.
If unrepairable damage, I would murder in a very horrible way (a very slow death).
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Author: Cass
Date: 2001-04-29 23:40
In real life the people who have actually had to deal with a broken clarinet sound as though they are sane adults who handled things in a mature way. But I have to admit that if someone broke my clarinet on purpose, and it it looked non-repairable, it might cross my mind, that a broken clarinet would make a pretty good blunt instrument.
>:-[
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Author: Bob Rausch
Date: 2001-04-30 03:41
A violin player knocked over my clarinet once and the mouthpiece tip was completely destroyed. She wasn't paying attention and bumped into my clarinet stand. I asked her politely to pay for the mouthpiece replacement. She asked me if I could play still play the instrument. I explained to her that is was not possible. Her response was " well your part is just background anyway, I sure you can make do until you can find a replacement." She refused to pay. I was pretty upset. I admit it was childish, but during a break I cut the horse hair on her violin bow with my reed knife. She started bitching that her instrument was unplayable. My response was " well your part is just background anyway, I sure you can make do until you can find a replacement." What goes around comes around.
Immature and unprofessional ? I know. However, at the time a 50 dollar mouthpiece was alot of money to me. She didn't even blink when she destroyed my property, I only treated her the way she treated me. Some people don't think, until it happens to them.
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Author: Gordon (NZ)
Date: 2001-04-30 06:16
I was once playing in a theatre pit, about 8 ft deep, in Hello Dolly. One night the clumsy waiter from the cast went for an uncontrolled horizontal slide across the stage and down, still horizontal into the pit. He landed about 4" from my clarinet on its stand, without a mouthpiece cap. He picked himself up, got himself back on stage, acknowledged the applause, and the show continued as if nothing had happened.
I have always wondered what impaling mess it would have made of his guts if he had landed on it, with the mechanism possibly acting like fish hook barbs!
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Author: Michael
Date: 2001-04-30 12:16
Perhaps insurance would pay for a new instrument, but I stilll remember running in my instrument (R13) when it was brand new, only being able to practice for short ammounts of time, and having to oil it so regularly. All the time I was worried about it cracking. I'm happy with my instrument now (even if it does need new pads) and would rather keep it than a new replacement.
Perhaps reeds under the finger nails would be a suitable punishment for the breaker.
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Author: Mike Irish
Date: 2001-04-30 12:32
ok...... that would have been a really gruesom sight, seeing a stage diver impelled by a clarinet.... I think that would just down right hurt.......
I still say, even if you cant get them to pay for repairs or replacement, your home owners may... or hte school may.......
as far as killing them or causing physical pain... sorry.... dont think that is the answer either......
mike
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Author: David Spiegelthal
Date: 2001-04-30 15:06
Gordon,
I love your "Hello Dolly" story! --- I'm playing that very musical right now (also from a deep pit below the front of the stage), and although none of the waiters has 'dropped in' yet, we have had a few props fall into the pit. Fortunately we (the players) are sitting pretty far back from the hole, it's mainly the conductor who's getting beaned with the props (as it should be!)
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Author: David Kinder
Date: 2001-04-30 16:02
Well, I've never had anyone damage my clarinet, but I've had mine stolen from me in the high school band room. It was my plastic Yamaha, but I still liked it for marching band. If I ever catch that S.O.B...
IF someone did damage my instrument, I would hope that I would be calm. It's not like it's the end of the world, but I'd like to be treated like an adult, and so should they. We'd have to work out a deal where they pay the damage, and I choose the repair person and place. If necessary, they pay a place to rent a professional clarinet for me while mine is in the shop for a couple of weeks.
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Author: Meri
Date: 2001-04-30 18:18
If someone broke my instrument intentionally I would first sue them, get the money, and then kill them, being sure there are no witnessess and no evidence.
Meri
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Author: Bill
Date: 2001-04-30 23:17
Are we victims of a "hit and run"? All these replies, and not a single response from MEPLAYCLARINET, e.g., as to the nature of the damage.
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Author: Danielle
Date: 2001-05-01 00:57
Bill: I'm guessing, yeah. Hit and run. Or, MEPLAYCLARINET (grammar, anyone?) could just be really lazy, and not wanna check the board for a few days. I do that sometimes, too. But it was interesting to see what people would do...it's a good topic to discuss. And I've decided to revise my revenge...I'd also inflict similar damage on their instrument. If they were a singer? Bash their throat in...and if they don't play anything, then what are they doing hanging around my clarinet, anyway?
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Author: joseph o'kelly
Date: 2001-05-01 01:04
Last year I had a fully restored Buffet clarinet from the 40s and a brand new Festival clarinet. Two days after I bought the festival ($2500) I loaned it to someone for a few days. She returned it with a noticable scratch on the bell. Because I had a major crush on this girl I didn't make a big deal over it, I just pointed it out to her. She got mad at me?
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Author: Gretchen
Date: 2001-05-01 01:47
Breaking a clarinet is probably a death penalty offense here in Texas. Heck, everything else is!
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Author: Terry Horlick
Date: 2001-05-01 07:34
Interesting topic. I had a riser collapse unde our sax section on a big band gig. My horns went everywhere, but only the Mark IV Selmer alto was damaged. I got it repaired for $100 and the performance hall insurance paid me back.
A girl in my daughter's high school had her locker broken into. The vandals got her wooden clarinet and used it for batting practice. There is nothing repairable left. The vandals were caught and their parents are going to purchase a new clarinet.
I remember how I treated my Evette Master in high school. It never left my side except for gym class, it stayed in the coach's office. My daughter now treats it the same way.
Honestly accidental injury to your horn should be met with an offer to help have it repaired. Keep your horns away from the other chairs! Intentional damage is unconscienable and I guess would require some reprisal. You really have little choice in what you can do. I guess repair and present the bill. If you go to small claims court to get satisfaction then you still have to figure a way to collect! You must admit any physical reprisal or return damage is just plain stupid!
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Author: Fred
Date: 2001-05-01 23:44
I'm afraid I've got to take the other path, but it would work for me. I teach my son that accidents happen. They are not always the result of reckless disregard, and they are not always followed by an "Oh, well . . " attitude. In the case of an honest accident, I'd accept restitution if offered, but I wouldn't demand it.
One of the premises you learn in industry about accidents is that you can predict the likelihood of an accident, but not the severity of the damage. A fall can result in dusty pants or death. I've been careless before, but it's never resulted in that type of damage. That was just luck. How about you?
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Author: Bob Arney
Date: 2001-05-02 17:07
This is starting to read like a research paper in abnormal psychology. Why was it started in the first place? Damages stated by the originator--None. It's time to cut the thread and pull the plug.
Bob A
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Author: Lindsey
Date: 2001-05-10 21:54
If my clarinet was broken I would cry. I love my E-11 and strangely enough addicted to practicing since I got it. I would not bodily harm anyone for hurting my "baby", but if they did it intentionally, they would hear a lot of choice words. As for that weird boy who was in my HS's band a few years back who would intentionally throw his own new Selmer Signature on the ground during marching season to try and break it because he didn't want to be in band and his parents were making him.....I still think he is nuts and should have just sold it or given it away on the side to someone like me ........abnormal psych is interesting. Sneezy is interesting in itself. I like reading off the wall threads!
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