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 2 bass clarinet transposition q's
Author: DougR 
Date:   2015-04-03 07:21

One, does anyone know of a transposed-to-bass clarinet version of the bassoon part for the Strauss Duet-Concertino?

Two, failing that, anyone have a favorite way to transpose C bass clef to Bb bass clef (and C tenor clef to Bb bass clef)?

(sorry, treble clef is my native tongue, bass clef without transposing is like my high-school Latin, and transposition and tenor clef transposition are like Martian.)

thanks in advanceā€¦.

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 Re: 2 bass clarinet transposition q's
Author: ebonite 
Date:   2015-04-03 12:43

To answer your transposition questions. If you play the sax, you can transpose C bass clef parts by imagining that the part is written in the treble clef, and using sax fingerings, though that works only in the lower register. For example, the note written on the second space is C in the bass clef, but it's A in the treble clef [A4]. So, if you finger A as on a saxophone (LH1 and LH2), you will end up with D on the bass clarinet, which is concert C, as required. Things get complicated when you go into the second register, but for bassoon parts, a lot of the time, the higher notes are written in the tenor clef, and that is very easy to transpose, as you simply read it as treble clef in the bass clarinet. For example, C (an octave higher than the C mentioned above) is written on the 4th line in the tenor clef, which is D in the treble clef [D5]. If you play that note (clarion D) on the bass clarinet, you end up with C in the right octave.

At the same time as doing the above, you have to keep the key signature in mind (add two sharps or subtract two flats).



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 Re: 2 bass clarinet transposition q's
Author: tictactux 2017
Date:   2015-04-03 16:02
Attachment:  Clefs.png (3k)

For Bass-in-C to Treble-in-Bb, there's an easy transition, at least when you decide to write it down (sometimes the lesser evil compared to transposing-while-sightreading). Add two lines (on top), add two sharps.

--
Ben

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 Re: 2 bass clarinet transposition q's
Author: DougR 
Date:   2015-04-03 22:43

Thanks, this is exactly what I needed. Will try both methods--my plan is to see if I can play off of the bassoon part with these techniques. (a viable written-down bass clarinet version evidently being nonexistent)

Salut!

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 Re: 2 bass clarinet transposition q's
Author: gsurosey 
Date:   2015-04-03 23:03

Tenor clef in C is like treble clef in Bb. Works great for bass clarinet because you can read the notes as is (taking into account the accidental changes, so you have to add 2 sharps).

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Rachel

Clarinet Stash:
Bb/A: Buffet R13
Eb: Bundy
Bass: Royal Global Max

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 Re: 2 bass clarinet transposition q's
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2015-04-03 23:18

When transposing from bass clef to treble clef Bb basso*, put everything in bass clef down a perfect 5th as it appears on the stave, then change the clef to a treble clef and add two sharps/subtract two flats and adjust the accidentals accordingly.

As an example, the top line A in bass clef now becomes the middle line B in treble clef Bb basso - that's how I do it.

* Named 'Bb basso' as it sounds an 8ve below that of a Bb clarinet/soprano sax/trumpet/cornet/fluegel horn/etc. or a Major 9th below Concert Pitch (a Bb soprano clarinet is pitched a whole tone below Concert Pitch).

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: 2 bass clarinet transposition q's
Author: DougR 
Date:   2015-04-09 04:26

just a quick thanks to everyone. I'm trying out everything and appreciate your generosity.
cheers
Doug

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