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 Re: New Clarinet Plays Flat?
Author: WhitePlainsDave 
Date:   2015-02-22 18:50

Kevin

Sounds like a well thought out execution strategy on your part. One note:

Please be careful of what people of my generation might refer to as the "Corinthian Leather" factor:

http://youtu.be/Vsg97bxuJnc?t=22s

(Some explanation: We'd try to sell someone we know on an idea or product NOT made of leather, telling them, in our best version of the late and great Ricardo Montalban's accent, "but it has Corinthian Leather [wink]:" a reference to a well known car commerical of the 1970s.

As you must know, shiny keys a good clarinet does not necessarily make. And if making your child happy plays a role here, I am at least as guilty as you of this bias.

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Paul: I respect that you own and know the brand. That does say a lot, (I don't know Yamahas) but our O.P. isn't buying a brand, just a single clarinet of a brand. That this flatness issue being endemic to the brand is an excellent point.

I play Buffet--yes a brand known for inconsistency that Yamaha may not have as much of. Despite the fact that their top of line instruments of various professional models play beautifully, plenty of duds exist.

I also think Yamaha makes beautiful instruments, and sometimes Buffet doesn't. So I really hope I have limited brand bias, but who knows?


Shifrin:

http://www.yamaha.com/artists/davidshifrin.html may have played this model at once point but appears to play other models today--again, models, not individual clarinet (not that you said otherwise Paul.)

Shifrin's also played Buffet at one point I'm pretty sure, and is probably compensated by Yamaha. This is not a dig at Shifrin or Yamaha. He would not play junk no matter what, nor does Yamaha sell it. But sometimes when an artist is happy with competing brands, the manufacturer "showing the money," becomes the one with the "best instrument," if you know what I mean.

"The barrels were (as stated above) designed specific to a horn with longer top joint (hence the shorter length)."

Yes, just like Rossi. I acknowledged that. But it can make barrel shopping a challenge outside the brand. People who buy Rossi's in large part don't care if they have to shell out $ to custom barrel makers. Grade schoolers and their parents might.

"I say keep the horn..........or sell it to me."

At what cost and under what warranty to you Paul? That is the real question.

"The pads are amazing until they start to wear out (with really heavy use this could be as short as a year). "

This is something a grade schooler player and their parents want to be concerned with?

You and I Paul, we go get a repadding job done while we bring in 3 other student horns at the same time.

"All Valentinos [pads] on this one please," might be a phrase as foreign to the O.P. as "attention K-Mart shoppers," was to Leona Helmsley.

I can walk into Weiner Music like "Norm walks into Cheers." The ordinary parent likely feels differently.

By no means am I accusing you of this, much less I wonder if I do it at times, but we have to be careful to discern "here's what I'd do," from "this is what I think the ordinary person should do," when dispensing advice.

All this said, it is entirely possible matters resolve here EXACTLY as you said, and I respect your thoughts here.



Post Edited (2015-02-22 18:53)

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