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Author: donald
Date: 2015-02-04 13:21
Oh I love that sound- but sadly if I played like that here in NZ I'd never get any gigs (especially as "section clarinet"), that kind of tone quality is completely out of fashion here, a fact I regard as quite sad.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2015-02-04 13:57
Sweeet! I absolutely love his tone.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: saxlite
Date: 2015-02-04 18:48
Donald- what was it about Gino's tone that does not work? It certainly works for me......
Jerry
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2015-02-04 18:51
To me, that's exactly how a clarinet should sound.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Philip Caron
Date: 2015-02-04 19:16
My reaction to the cadenza bothers me. Cioffi plays it with admirable artistry, yet there's an error - a smudge at 12:27. I almost feel bad for noticing it, since I could no more play this cadenza so beautifully myself than I could flap my arms and fly to the moon. But there's a furtive voice inside me sort of keeping score, saying "see, he has one of the same problems you have", and lunging from there to the coldly unwarranted notion that Cioffi and Caron are somehow comparable.
It's like I have two listener's hats. Usually I try to get into the flow of the music and respond to both the composer's and the performer's intentions as I perceive them. In this mode, small errors in playing mean little. But sometimes, or at the same time running in parallel, there's this obnoxious, shady guy listening for mistakes, keeping score. If there's "too many" mistakes happening, then the other mode tends to shut down and stop appreciating the music. This is the main reason I've stopped following scores while listening - it engaged the scorekeeper guy too much, to the detriment of my listening experience.
Both these guys participate when I'm playing too. I guess it's natural.
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Author: TJTG
Date: 2015-02-04 22:37
If you criticize simply based on a "smudge" here an there, I recommend you only listen to over-edited over-produced vanilla recordings. Live music has mistakes. Get over yourself.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2015-02-04 23:16
TJTG wrote:
> Live music has mistakes. Get over yourself.
I don't think that was the tone of that post. I think it's more akin to when I'm reading a good novel, totally immersed and I've created the entire world in my head. - I don't really realize that I'm reading. I don't want it to stop; I'll skip a meal, stay up late, ignore my wife.
Until a misspelled word or unwieldy grammar.
My world falls apart, the characters lose their focus, and I obsess on the fact that an editor or proofreader or author let me down. It takes me quite a while to get back into the story after that, and some of the trust is gone. I intellectually know it was an accident, but emotionally I feel let down. It's part of my internal makeup and difficult to change.
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Author: donald
Date: 2015-02-04 23:39
Saxlite- please read my post again, I didn't say that *I* had a problem with his sound, I think I used the word "love".
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Author: seabreeze
Date: 2015-02-05 06:47
Donald,
I also love the Cioffi sound--rich, deep, and resonant. I'm wondering though, if they don't like that sound now in New Zealand, what kind of sound do they like? Are they using high-resistance "fat boy" barrels and very open mouthpiece facings that dull the tone, mute the higher partials, and make it spread out and hollow, or what?
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