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 little cosmetic issue with new Yamaha CSG-III
Author: tommo84 
Date:   2015-01-31 02:11
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Hi to everyone,
I'm new to the board, but played clarinet since 20 years now...

I have just purchased a marvellous Yamaha CSG-III clarinet with the E/F correction key. On the sound and keywork I have nothing to say, it is simply the most in-tune clarinet I have ever played. the sound is also very charming, more deep compared to Buffet RC that I had previously used.

There is only one little problem. When I brought the baby home from the shop, I noticed a little chip on the upper joint, just below the tenon (see attached image). I am sure that it was already there, it was not my fault. So maybe it got chipped from the shop, from the distributor or wathever...who knows? The fact is that I am VERY meticulous with my things and I try to preserve things in the best possible way ( cars, telephones etc), even going maybe on the crazy level of attentions...
now I know that this little chip means nothing for the instrument, but how would have you reacted in my place?
I showed the thing to the shop who just said that it is just a minor cosmetic issue, and even a wood crack means nothing if it is well repaired, let alone this chip...

please give your opinion about that :)

thanks a lot



Post Edited (2015-01-31 02:18)

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 Re: little cosmetic issue with new Yamaha CSG-III
Author: GBK 
Date:   2015-01-31 02:17

♫ Let it go. Let it go. Let it go. ♫

...GBK



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 Re: little cosmetic issue with new Yamaha CSG-III
Author: Tony F 
Date:   2015-01-31 04:06

It's insignificant, no more than the normal dings that an instrument accumulates during its life. You've found an instrument that plays just the way you like it, and you may never find one as good again. Forget about the chip and enjoy the instrument.

Tony F.

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 Re: little cosmetic issue with new Yamaha CSG-III
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2015-01-31 04:33

It's more of a dent or a place where the wood received a bit of a bump and became compressed. It is not anything that should be of concern. I would hasten to draw the analog to the first dent or scratch on a new car. You KNOW it's going to happen, but now that it's over, you don't need to be as worked up about the next one (which is gonna happen).



Enjoy your clarinet........you'll forget about it in due course.






.............Paul Aviles



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 Re: little cosmetic issue with new Yamaha CSG-III
Author: Kel 
Date:   2015-01-31 06:29

That clarinet is now worthless … and a hazard to the environment. Ship it to me and I'll make sure it is safely and properly disposed of (eventually).

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 Re: little cosmetic issue with new Yamaha CSG-III
Author: TomS 
Date:   2015-01-31 06:29

You should have seen all the little "checks" (crack wanna be), dents, dings, open grain, rough tone holes, scratchy bore, and key imperfections in the last Buffet R13 that I purchased in 1996. I didn't worry about it because it played perfectly and I knew I'd add to the cosmetic imperfections on a daily basis. Besides, I kinda like the well used, seasoned, distressed look ... gives it character.

I used to inspect and test electronic assemblies, some that were military qualified/space rated, and I became very sensitive to minor imperfections ... and these can be important indicators of workmanship that might fail during the rigors of war or spaceflight. I turned into an ultimate "neat freak" on all things ... not good!

I eventually realized that I could not apply the same criteria to objects that I owned or could afford.

Life is too short to get too crazy on a ding on your clarinet! Just play the music and enjoy your new Yamaha! You are a lucky lad to own such a beautiful and incredible instrument ... and even with it's ding, it's microscopic defects are fewer than probably anything else out there ... Yamaha's workmanship rocks!

I'd go ahead and let your dog chew on your clarinet, just to break it in properly, and stop worrying.

Tom

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 Re: little cosmetic issue with new Yamaha CSG-III
Author: tommo84 
Date:   2015-01-31 15:03

Thanks to everyone!
It really helps. BTW the instrument is fantastic and as you have said, with time more things will come...

I was only concerned by the fact that the clarinet was not treated with care by the shop or the distributor...but in the end what matters is how the clarinet responds and feels.


thanks again guys

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 Re: little cosmetic issue with new Yamaha CSG-III
Author: DavidBlumberg 
Date:   2015-01-31 22:36

Nah - S&;" happens

http://www.SkypeClarinetLessons.com


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 Re: little cosmetic issue with new Yamaha CSG-III
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2015-01-31 23:16

You might be able to burnish it out, but to be honest it's such a tiny ding it's hardly worth worrying about.

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: little cosmetic issue with new Yamaha CSG-III
Author: tommo84 
Date:   2015-01-31 23:33

yes, if it is due to a compression (as it seems), it is sufficient to make the wood expands (by hot or moisture or oil), but honestly...as we said here in Italy, "better broken than fixed"...so I will just let it as it is!

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 Re: little cosmetic issue with new Yamaha CSG-III
Author: thomas.b 
Date:   2015-02-01 10:08

Yes, I would not change anything. Probably you will find a small imperfection in nearly every new clarinet... if you are looking carefully enough...
Btw: I found a Thread here where a csg posts about a problem:
"My brand new owner is a wonderful player, but I detected a small imperfection on his corpus. Should I look for a new player? :-)

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 Re: little cosmetic issue with new Yamaha CSG-III
Author: tommo84 
Date:   2015-02-01 19:11
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thomas.b wrote:

>Btw: I found a Thread here where a csg posts about a problem:
> "My brand new owner is a wonderful player, but I detected a
> small imperfection on his corpus. Should I look for a new
> player? :-)

LOL you got it! :D

Anyway...since I am freak...I worked a little on the dent...and I completely fixed it :D (see picture).

It was just for fun, but in the ends it turned out quite nice :)

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 Re: little cosmetic issue with new Yamaha CSG-III
Author: Hank Lehrer 
Date:   2015-02-01 22:50

Tommo84,

I got a new Yamaha CS Custom a year ago and can agree that these clarinets really play well in tune. From the top to the bottom (same with the saxes). Out of a shipping carton, the instrument played perfectly but my tech (he is Eric and the store owner BTW) did a few small tweaks here and there.

I did experience a small problem this last summer though and it was that the tenor socket on the lower section and the bell got a little bit tight with summer moisture. Eric took a flat scraper and removed some of the buildup in the socket. His explanation was that it was swelling a little and also out of round.

During the winter days now when things are so dry, I keep the old pill bottom with holes and a damp sponge in my case at all items. The rings are staying tight and assembly is easy.

Perhaps as the wood goes through a few summer/winter humidity cycles, the possibility of any more swelling will not be an issue.

Now I am trying to figure out how to sneak a new Yamaha 621 bass clarinet into the house without my wife seeing it.

HRL

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