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 What's considered advanced?
Author: joseph o'kelly 
Date:   2001-04-18 20:24

After posting my question about prodogies I would like to ask this question. It might be a tough one to answer but here it is. What qualities would a 16year old have to pocess to be advanced enough to persue a soloist career in the future?

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 RE: What's considered advanced?
Author: Mandy 
Date:   2001-04-18 20:53

Rich parents and an attitude.

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 RE: What's considered advanced?
Author: sarah 
Date:   2001-04-18 21:04

I very much like Mandy's response! lol

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 RE: What's considered advanced?
Author: Daniel Bouwmeester 
Date:   2001-04-18 21:34

Advanced and talented is not the same...

But to do a music carreer you must be :

1)Talented (that's 5 %)

2)Be disciplined in your work

3)Intelligent

4)In good health

5)good looking (being white and male is better / or being white and female and not be afraid of going to bed with your conductor)

6)Be big headed

7)be courageous

8)have lot's of nerves

9)Play better than anyone you know

10)And most important of all. know lot's of influential musicians (that means mastering the art of licking asses, or/and mastering sex)

Good luck to anyone who wishes to attempt.... I would discourage you to try.

REgards

Dan

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 RE: What's considered advanced?
Author: David Kinder 
Date:   2001-04-18 21:39

Are we talking about music..., or a soap opera!  :)

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 RE: What's considered advanced?
Author: Mandy 
Date:   2001-04-18 21:42

Gives a whole new meaning to improving your tongueing!........Sorry.

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 RE: What's considered advanced?
Author: bob gardner 
Date:   2001-04-19 00:21

I GUESS A LOT OF IT DEPENDS UPON THE TYPE OF MUSIC ONE LOVES. IN JAZZ IT WOULD BE A LOT OF SHOW BIZ,IN CLASSICAL IT TAKES MORE TALENT, AND IN ROCK AND ROLL ---IT TAKES A GIMIC (?)
SOME THINK THAT ACKER BILK CAN'T PLAY AND HE HAS BEEN AROUND FOR 40 YEARS. OTHER THINK THAT KENNY G. CAN'T PLAY EITHER.
YOU PAY YOUR MONEY AND TAKE YOUR CHANCES.
IF ONE HAS THE DESIRE THEN MAYBE THEY WILL MAKE IT. DO YOU WANT TO PAY THE PRICE?

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 RE: What's considered advanced?
Author: LIZZIE 
Date:   2001-04-19 02:00

LOL Mandy! Work really hard it you want it to be your proffesion go for it! Good-Luck!,
lizzie

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 RE: What's considered advanced?
Author: Gene Wie 
Date:   2001-04-19 06:38

Coming off the violin thread...it's a good thing top of the line clarinets max out around $4000 (and we're talking some fancy stuff for that much =). That's a figure someone can save up for reasonably. Attempting to save for a top of the violin (aka from the makers Stradivarius, Guarneri, and their peers) is an exercise in futility.

And that's why I decided to play clarinet instead of violin. It's a much better playing field when everyone can obtain the same equipment...

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 RE: What's considered advanced?
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   2001-04-19 14:40

LOL! The exact same things can and have been said about advancing in <b>any</b> business! Musicians / the music business is no different than any other.

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 RE: What's considered advanced?
Author: Stefano 
Date:   2001-04-19 16:29

Joseph,

You still need a serious answer to your question. Unfortunatelly I am not a professional musician, although I know some personally.

I gave it a though when I was young, and my best advice is the following:

1) To pursue a soloist career must be your # 1 priority (always: from the moment you wake up until you go to sleep).

2) You KNOW that you can make it (to FEEL that you may make it is not enough; if you need the support of others to convince yourself then there is a problem);

3) Be willing to work VERY, VERY hard (nothing comes easy in ANY profession: but the artists' world is one of the most difficult);

4) You should SEE the results of your talent (check your improvements: if you make poor performances or hardly pass the necessary exams, then you are allowed to think at alternative professions).

You should also consider that to be a musician is a hard life. If you wish to become a solist of success, you have to struggle 5 times harder than what is generally required to become a pit orchestra musician.

Take care

Stefano

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 RE: What's considered advanced?
Author: Brenda Siewert 
Date:   2001-04-21 13:46

Gene,
The Leblanc Symphonie VII retails for $6,500.00. I know that's not like an expensive violin--but it's not peanuts. Also, there's the set-up--professional mouthpieces that are made by great makers like Gregory Smith, Clark Fobes and others run about $200.00 or so. If you get a genuine Kaspar, you may pay $450.00 or more. Then, there's the tuning barrels. Stock barrels and mouthpieces are mostly junk--even on the Symphonie VII--so, a good Moennig or Chadash barrel can be about $150.00-200.00. So, add another $1,000.00 to the price of the instrument and you'll be in the ball park. Oh, you might want another good mouthpiece for a back up--never know when yours might break or other tragic things.

And, Bob, I think jazz takes lots of talent! It's harder than classical for some of us.:)

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