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Author: Lee
Date: 2001-04-11 17:01
Hi I'm thinking about changing my lig: the BGsuper revelation. At first I used a vandoren 5RV mouthpiece, but then I purchase a Gregory Smith Kasper and that mouthpiece is the best that I have played, but the ligature only seemed to play well with the 5RV, but when I tried a traditional bonade at the wwandbw in NY It was a big change. So basically to make a long story short my question is:For those of you who use a greg smith Kasper what ligs do you use and what kind of responce do you get from it?
THANKS
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Author: Ed
Date: 2001-04-11 18:52
Ken,
What type (material & diameter) of string have you found works best. Also, what length of string do you recommend? - I didn't see those details in your earlier post.
Thanks.
Ed
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Author: L. Omar Henderson
Date: 2001-04-11 21:17
I am fortunate enough to have several of Greg Smith's mouthpieces including the Kapars - they play beutifully!. Let me state that I have never tried string so I cannot comment. I just recently got one of Peter Spriggs floating rail ligatures (Sneezy Sponsor Page) and it is by far the best ligature I have used - and I have a collection of many more than you can count on all your fingers and toes. I use it on Greg's Kaspar's and am overjoyed at the response and sound quality. As always, the warning that mouthpieces, reeds, liagatures are very individual oriented and therefore YMMV.
The Doctor
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Author: L. Omar Henderson
Date: 2001-04-12 00:05
I should add that I have (not bragging but only giving equal credit) some wonderful mouthpieces made by others, including Clark Fobes, Hite, Parmico, Hawkins, and Grabner. Each of these has a tone and a character which is attractive but different than the others. Often it is the combination of a particular mouthpiece, ligature, and reed combination that gives you that special sound and response that you want. These are all premier makers and they all produce wonderful products with unique qualities. As stated many times before it has a lot to do with individual tastes and what works for you. By all means try several types of ligatures and several ligatures within a type.
The Doctor
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Author: William
Date: 2001-04-12 00:13
I am playing on an original Frank Kaspar #14 and the VD Optimun lig with the parallel rails insert is doing just fine. Also recently tried a Harrison Gold lig which also seemed to work. I know that Greg uses an old Bonade reverse. Iv'e tried the BG ligs and do not like them-- Hope all the advice helps. Good luck!!!!!
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Author: Aaron
Date: 2001-04-12 01:12
I also play a greg smith, and I use different ligatures depending on what type of music, ensemble and espically reed that I am using.
My main ligature is the Charles Bay medium. i use this with Vandoren V12, 4 hardness reeds.I use this setup with my R-13 and caddash barrell for orchestra and wind band and for solo work.
I also use the Opera french cut reeds from time to timei UI find I have to really tirm them to make them harder, the 4 hardness in them is TOO weak. However with them the Bay lig. just dosent hold the reed right for effective vibration. I use a string ligature for these reeds. I haven't tried the shoestring thing yet. However I have used a thinner string my professor uses to tie bassoon reeds. I realy LOVE the sound that I can get out of the string lig. it's great. And it only really takes aobut 2 minutes to put the thing on, so not too time consuming.
i have used the Bonade, the soundwas good, but a little thin but very powerful. I'm going to give it another try.
hope i help...
Aaron
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Author: Hiroshi
Date: 2001-04-13 00:28
As to string: Zinner mouthpiece for reformed Boehm German clarinet has ditches that string fit in. String may work very good for this kind of mouthpiece. Howver,
most of French style mouthpiece does not have this shape. String may slip easily on the surface especially of such steep outside taper mouthpiece like Kasper.
I would recommend as you described ordinary type of Bonade. I read once Muncy sells gold plated one.
The reason I prefer ordinary type to inverted Bonade.
1)I feel I can easily adjust reed Vibration by adjusting upper and lower screw fasning tention. Keith Stein recommends the upper tight enough and lower loose, whereas Roger Galper set ligature very in lower position and fasten the upper one loose and the lower one tight enough.
2)Invereted one seems to make the reed vibrate even the reed itself is becoming to die. The ordinary type seems to be able to tell the reed condition more accurately.
By the way, I use a Greg Smith Kasper style mouthpiece too and recentlly changed from invereted to ordinary type Bonade. 'Kasper-Chicago+Morre reed+ordinary Bonade' may have been the best match in old days.
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Author: Sara
Date: 2001-04-13 03:52
I use a regular Rovner with my Greg smith kasper, most anything else I use is too bright, although I do have a BG SuperRel. and a Luyben, but both always seem so bright although I am thinking about useing my luyben for my Rossini prefomance it makes the piece sound more alive and boncyer.
Sara
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Author: David Kinder
Date: 2001-04-13 16:32
I've been using a Rovner Eddie Daniels II ligature for a few years now. It gives me the best of both worlds - darkness with the rubber, articulation with the metal plates that hold the reed in. Give it a shot!
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2001-04-13 18:55
VD has recently been issued European Patent 0,837,450 on a ligature, I'm not sure which trade name it may be! It appears to me to be quite similar to the old Luyben. It is viewable and printable [pages 5 and 6 for pics]. Nearly all else is in French! Go to http://www.delphion.com, then to European Patents and enter the number. Good luck reading!, Don
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Author: NSW
Date: 2001-04-21 09:18
Hi
I'm Singaporean and a lot of the ligatures mentioned in this forum are really STRANGERS to me.
Anyway I am just an amatuer clarinetist but I do have experiences with a few ligatures:
The 'basic' 2 screw type: I don't really like them, find them to be too bright and thin for my liking
BG Traditional: Mine was the silver version. It had served me rather well, although I would say I have problems with a 'saliva sound' while playing it. It however had its life ended when corrosion spilt the joint.
BG Standard: this leather ligature was borrowed from a friend of mine. Sounds weird in my own opinion. Projection is not as good
Rovner Light: I bought this hard rubber ligature meant for a replacement for the BG traditional. I ended its life prematurely by dumping it in my storeroom. I feel that even though it was the 'light' version, the sound was muffled and response isn't that great after all.
BG Super Revelation: I do not really favour this ligature. The broadness of the sound was not there, but articulation was made realli much easier.
Consoli Ramplig Dark: I am currently using this ligature. Its the best so far in my own opinion, but it was also my most expensive. Its classified as dark, but by pushing it downwards I get a brighter sound. The flexibility was there. But so far I have not seen this ligature being mentioned in this thread at all. the website is http://www.consolims.com
I personally believe that good tone is primarily acheived by the mouth, and the equipment near the mouth ( i think you get what i mean) and that the clarinet is just an extension. ( i own a Buffet E 11)
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Author: Daniel
Date: 2001-04-25 04:10
My favorite ligature hasn't been made in years. It's a Kaspar. Next to string, it's the best thing i've ever played. The next best ligature i've played is my Peter Spriggs "Floating Rails". And then next would be Charlie Bay's ligs.
Everything else doesn't have enough ring in the sound and is too dark (for me).
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