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Author: rt4567
Date: 2014-11-25 08:41
Hi! Can someone please tell me advantages of these clarinets, and help me decide which one is better to buy?
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2014-11-25 14:25
I find them to be apples and oranges. I have difficulty playing Backun clarinets now that I have become accustomed to playing R13 style clarinets. I put the Backuns in the same category of acoustic as the new Selmer Privilege, the Selmer Signature; and the Leblanc Concerto and Opus.
You must try them and find out for yourself which YOU prefer.
.................Paul Aviles
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Author: bill28099
Date: 2014-11-25 21:23
Then there is always the question as to whether you want to send your dollars to France or to Canada.
A great teacher gives you answers to questions
you don't even know you should ask.
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Author: TomS
Date: 2014-11-26 08:08
Or send some of your dollars to Asia and some to the US ... as you would be doing if your purchased a Ridenour clarinet. Or, all of your money to the US if you purchased a Julian Bliss instrument ...
There might be some small manufacturers that make pro clarinets entirely in the US? That would be cool!
Might get me in trouble saying this but, I've wondered if the playing characteristics of the Ridenour and Backun instruments share some common ground ... since some of the former Opus/Concerto players are now Backun artists. When Leblanc has ceased professional clarinet production, some clarinetists sought out another company that makes similar performing (but unfortunately more expensive!) instruments ...
Get what works for you ... but I wouldn't limit my trials to just Buffet and Backun ... at least check out the Yamaha, Selmer and Ridenour Lyrique instruments too ...
Tom
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Author: rt4567
Date: 2014-11-26 09:42
TomS, I had just looked up Ridenour's clarinets, and i just saw the Lyrique RCP-G1 Bb Clarinet. I am wondering how does it compare to the r13 or protege?
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Author: Bandgeek16
Date: 2014-11-26 19:52
If you do limit your options, Buffet Crampon and Selmer are the best two company's. US brands are not really much good in comparison...
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2014-11-27 00:38
Dear "Bandgeek16,"
I would be remise if I did not put in a good word for Chadash Clarinets (made in NY,NY). They are somewhat of a Buffet clone, but they are exceptional clarinets and I've heard many symphonic artists around the country playing them with a great deal of success.
.............Paul Aviles
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Author: rt4567
Date: 2014-11-27 07:43
So, is the r13 the better choices?(that's what the answers are geared towards)
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Author: TomS
Date: 2014-11-27 09:10
I spoke with Mr. Chadash a few years back, considering buying one of his barrels, but in Greenline material. I really liked what that did for my sound on my Buffet. They weren't available yet, because the material was harder and he had special reamers ordered ... He was really friendly and informative. I'll bet that his brand of instruments are really good, as he seems super knowledgeable in acoustics and well knows what he is doing.
The Ridenour G-1 is no longer in production due to lack of interest and relatively low sales in respect to the hard rubber instruments. That's my understanding ... The RCP-146 is plastic with a hard rubber barrel and all other Ridenour Lyrique clarinet bodies are totally made of hard rubber.
As far as the Rideonour Lyrique Libertas versus the R13 it's a matter of what you like. I usually prefer playing the Ridenour Lyrique clarinets because IMHO the tuning is better, the sound is nicer and the blowing resistance and timbre are more uniform. It's easier for a 62 year old, under-trained, and less practiced and talented player, like me, to play.
I currently have an R13 in A and have owned several Buffet B-flat instruments including R13s and E13s. I also have two Ridenour Lyrique clarinets as well as other assorted brands and models ...
This is totally my opinion but the R13 is very different in the way it plays and sounds. The R13s have a big, resonant foundation, but with an attached edge, brightness, ring and ping. The Ridenour instruments have an underlying smooth warmness fused to a powerful, centered clarity. The Ridenour Lyrique clarinets are notably rounder and sweeter in the higher notes. Both brands play loudly and project well. The difference in sound and playing characteristics are substantially due to the acoustic design, I suspect.
Beyond the acoustic design, hard rubber material and some softer hardwoods dissipate the highest harmonics (turned into heat), thus naturally yielding a warmer, darker sound. So, the Ridenour sound is partially design and partially material.
I'd check them both out and don't forget the Yamaha and Selmer, if you can find them. It would be best to have all to test at the same time and if your teacher really plays well, ask him/her to assist. It seems that the Buffet instruments might vary a bit , so you may need several to test, and a professional opinion to properly select ... when you find a good one, it is great. The Ridenour clarinets are probably more consistent, mostly due to the material they are made of and Tom's Rideonour's attention and hand tweaking each instrument.
All good professional clarinets in the hands of a skilled player can do it all ...
Get the one that most easily facilitates your personal concept of tonal beauty, and with manageable negative traits (if any).
Tom
Post Edited (2014-11-27 09:46)
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