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Author: JuanMorales
Date: 2014-11-16 08:26
Im currently on the hunt for the best book for orchestral excerpts for clarinet but i havent found much.
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Author: GBK
Date: 2014-11-16 08:59
Orchestral excerpt books are becoming passé since the IMSLP site is available.
http://imslp.org/
It's best to play off the original parts and most are easy to find on IMSLP.
If you actually want an excerpt book, The Working Clarinetist by Peter Hadcock is invaluable and a great place to start, especially for his excellent commentary.
...GBK
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2014-11-16 17:38
Hmmm.........
Just to be a different voice on this: I'd say in a few years of students plucking through full parts I can imagine one of them finally coming up with the bright idea to take the important sections and string them together in a book format :-)
There isn't just ONE book. There are the International Editions of Orchestral Excerpts (most if not all) edited by Stanley Drucker. The first two have the most used material. And just keep in mind that there are pieces that are still covered by current copyright and are only available for purchase or rent.
.............Paul Aviles
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Author: kdk ★2017
Date: 2014-11-16 19:16
Paul Aviles wrote:
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> There are the International Editions
> of Orchestral Excerpts (most if not all) edited by Stanley
> Drucker. The first two have the most used material. And just
> keep in mind that there are pieces that are still covered by
> current copyright and are only available for purchase or rent.
>
The first four were edited by Robert McGinnis, unless Drucker re-edited them. Drucker did the later ones.
I'm not certain, because I own the older, pre-1988 (our recognition of the Berne Convention?) editions, but I think they may have been re-published without the copyrighted material - specifically the Russian composers whose pieces were suddenly protected by the newly recognized agreements.
I'm curious to know if anyone who owns the later post-Berne editions can confirm or deny that most Shostakovitch and Prokofiev excerpts were taken out.
The main problem with the excerpt books - all of them, as far as I know - is that they aren't completely accurate transcriptions of the the original part. Also, though less important, context matters if you're auditioning for anything from a college to a professional orchestra. You're better off in these situations if you're looking at the same thing at the audition that you've seen during practice.
Karl
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2014-11-16 19:26
I hate to disagree with Paul, but the International books are outmoded. Vol. 1-4 were edited by Robert McGinnes and are small snippets. Also, they're full of errors. Vol. 5-8 were edited by Drucker but had to be withdrawn because the copyrights couldn't be cleared.
The Bonade book has his markings but also has many errors.
Instead, get The Orchestral Musician's CD-ROM Library, Vols. 1 - 12 http://www.vcisinc.com/, which has the complete parts. Better yet, get the complete scores from http://imslp.org/. You can't understand your part unless you see it in context.
Ken Shaw
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2014-11-16 19:54
Certainly you want to KNOW the part in context and know where the main solos come from and lead to, but........ I firmly believe the excerpts should be practiced like scales. That is, all the time, regularly, so that they become as natural to play as a scale.
And if your 'rote' excerpt needs some tweaking before an audition, then you can study the social habits of Beethoven and Stravinsky at that time. But until then, having the basics under your fingers will do just fine, particularly when your in school cramming material for lessons, performances and senior recitals.
Excerpts aren't "Venetian Glass," they are a critical part of what you need know to win auditions.
..............Paul Aviles
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2014-11-17 04:56
I'd suggest you get as many books as you can get for your collection. The McGinnis vol. one and two and the Handcock book for sure. There's also two Strauss books and a Wagner book but that's for his operas. And there's a French excerpt book, can't remember the publisher and I'm out of town now. I'd suggest you learn all the important solos and memorize as many as you can. Then get the parts from the sources listed above as many as possible for the important repertoire and too check for mistakes. The Hancock book has great suggestions and very few errors but does not have nearly all the major works, but it has a great many.
ESP eddiesclarinet.com
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Author: kdk ★2017
Date: 2014-11-17 06:52
Ed Palanker wrote:
> And there's a French excerpt book, can't
> remember the publisher and I'm out of town now.
Do you mean the book edited by Lucien Cailliet, "Orchestral Passages for the Clarinet from the Modern French Repertoire?" It *is*a very nice book with a lot of very standard French repertoire that I don't remember seeing in other excerpt books. Lots of Debussy and Ravel, some Roussel and several others. As excerpt books go, it's less riddled with mistakes than most. I wonder if it's still in print.
Karl
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Author: nbclarinet
Date: 2014-11-17 07:06
+1 for the Hadcock book
While it doesn't have the greatest number of excerpts, it is one of the more error-free books I've seen. Plus, the author included tips and suggestions for playing each excerpt, which I've found to be helpful.
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