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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2014-11-06 10:10
Hi
Does anyone have suggestions for a fast C to D trill on a bass clarinet?
![[C6]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/c6.gif) ![[D6]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/d6.gif)
The regular trill fingering that works on soprano clarinet doesn't work on bass clarinet.
Playing C normally and trilling with throat G# key plus first finger with half hole is ok but really sharper than we would like.
Playng C normally and trilling using the thumb key (keeping register key pressed) has good intonation but is not comfortable. There are many variations on that using the same key, such as changing fingers, using the right hand, etc. Assume that these don't work in this situation.
Is there a more comfortable fingering with decent intonation?
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Author: maxopf
Date: 2014-11-06 10:19
Another one I know on soprano is trilling using the 2nd-to-top right hand trill key (the one you'd use for an alternate throat Bb.)
I haven't played bass much, so I can't say for sure if it will be very well in tune, but it's the most in-tune one for me on soprano.
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2014-11-06 10:47
>> Another one I know on soprano is trilling using the 2nd-to-top right hand trill key (the one you'd use for an alternate throat Bb.) <<
This fingering is what I meant that is the regular fingering on soprano clarinet that doesn't work on bass.
Post Edited (2014-11-06 10:49)
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Author: maxopf
Date: 2014-11-06 11:25
Oh, sorry, didn't catch that.
There are a couple more listed on this chart which I've never tried before.
http://www.wfg.woodwind.org/clarinet/cl_tr2_2.html
Post Edited (2014-11-06 11:25)
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Author: DAVE
Date: 2014-11-06 12:08
I absolutely cannot stand to hear anyone trill a high C with the G# key. I cringe every time I see/hear it.
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Author: ebonite
Date: 2014-11-06 13:29
I can think of two possibilities:
1. Play C as normal, and trill to the D by removing *both* the thumb key *and* the register key
2. Play C the same as clarion Eb, but keep the L1 half hole open. Then trill to D by lifting R2 and R3
They might not work on your bass clarinet, but they do work on some.
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2014-11-06 14:00
>>1. Play C as normal, and trill to the D by removing *both* the thumb key *and* the register key <<
I saw that all-fingers-off D fingering in the fingering chart and thought the same thing, but maybe even trill with just the thumb key, playing the C overblown (without reg).
I'll try your second suggestion too, though if I remember adding the G/D key, changing to the lower reg vent, "ruins" it and doesn't allow playing the upper overtone.
I considered some possibilities of pressing the key itself, not the lever, which wouldn't change reg key, but so far couldn't find anything useful or not too cumbersome.
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Author: ebonite
Date: 2014-11-06 16:04
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> I'll try your second suggestion too, though if I remember
> adding the G/D key, changing to the lower reg vent, "ruins" it
> and doesn't allow playing the upper overtone.
this is a case where manual dual register keys would have been useful...
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2014-11-06 18:04
Yes, but considering the compromise, it's not even in the same galaxy as worth it...
I just tried the "no hands" fingering for D and trilling just with the thumb key and it works.
Post Edited (2014-11-06 18:31)
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2014-11-06 18:53
Agreed, lifting the thumb for the D is the way I often play it. It's sounds great on my bass even in a scale passage. C to C#, add two lower side keys, D over blow throat tone G. Some times having to leave the register key down just lifting the thumb off the F key. Depends on the instrument and voicing. Works great for a soft passage in The Grand Canyon Suite.
ESP eddiesclarinet.com
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Author: ebonite
Date: 2014-11-06 20:56
I've just tried the trill on my bass clarinet.
Assuming the trill starts on the C, I found that the best way to play it was to include the register key just for the first c in the trill (to get a reliable attack), and after that, just do the trill with the thumb key, without pressing the register key again.
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2014-11-06 22:07
>> Assuming the trill starts on the C, I found that the best way to play it was to include the register key just for the first c in the trill (to get a reliable attack), and after that, just do the trill with the thumb key, without pressing the register key again. <<
That's exactly what I meant in my previous post, maybe didn't explain so clearly.
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2014-11-07 03:13
'DAVE,'
Every time I execute a high "C" trill with the G# key, I think of you.
...............Paul Aviles
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