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 Buffet rc prestige with 440hz bell.mouthpiece???
Author: alexispianokeys 
Date:   2014-11-03 00:15

Hi guys:)) I'd like to share with you one thought I got.
I currently play on a buffet rc prestige green line which got a 440hz stock bell.
Is there a need to play with a 440hz mouthoiece like vandoren's series 13 to have better results or this useless??
Maybe I could make the question About 442 mouthpiece with 442 bell.u know what I mean.
I'm not wondering about general tuning improvement but maybe on some particular notes or better sound or better instrument behavior.thanks
P.s. I'm European.tuning 442

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Post Edited (2014-11-03 00:36)

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 Re: Buffet rc prestige with 440hz bell.mouthpiece???
Author: Caroline Smale 
Date:   2014-11-03 01:01

I have never heard of a 440hz or a 442 hz bell.
Changing the bell would only influence 2 notes on the clarinet.
The only difference between 440/442 Buffets is almost invariably confined to the barrel which is typically 1mm longer for 440hz.



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 Re: Buffet rc prestige with 440hz bell.mouthpiece???
Author: alexispianokeys 
Date:   2014-11-03 14:38

so this 440 in my bell describes the tune of the entire instrument?
i asked if i should my mouthpiece to a 440.not my bell

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 Re: Buffet rc prestige with 440hz bell.mouthpiece???
Author: Caroline Smale 
Date:   2014-11-03 19:10

All that really matters is that the overall instrument plays as well in tune as possible.
So if you are sharp a series 13 mouthpiece will lower the pitch a little.
Same result achieved with standard mouthpiece a a slightly longer barrel.

Mouthpiece is unlikely to influence just a few notes (except the throat A/Ab/Bb) ones.

Choice of barrel bore can influence response ot tuning and tone in certain areas.
You need to be very specific about what exactly you are trying to fix for anyone to offer real help.



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 Re: Buffet rc prestige with 440hz bell.mouthpiece???
Author: alexispianokeys 
Date:   2014-11-04 01:36

In what frequency have to tune with this instrument to see if I'm in tune?we here tune at 442 but my bell or the instrument is at 440

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 Re: Buffet rc prestige with 440hz bell.mouthpiece???
Author: Caroline Smale 
Date:   2014-11-04 02:19

For practical purposes the ONLY difference between 442 and 440 is the length of the barrel and/or the style of mouthpiece (series 13 or not).

The bell has absolutely no effect on overall pitch of instrument.

If your local groups play at 442 then that is what you have to tune to A=442.

a series 13 mouthpiece will make you play flatter than a non 13 series so generally the non 13 is likely to be more suited.
If you are still not at 442 then if flat use a shorter barrel and if sharp a shorter barrel.
I think the standard RC Bb barrel is 66mm for 440 and 65mm for 442 but it all depends on what pitch you personally play at. Some people play naturally sharper or flatter than others using exactly the same set up. So you have to play on your equipment to decide which way you need to move (if at all) to play at 442.

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 Re: Buffet rc prestige with 440hz bell.mouthpiece???
Author: alexispianokeys 
Date:   2014-11-04 16:46

Thanks for your time.im ok with my tune.one more and last question.if someone ask me in what frequency my instrument is tuned I have to answer 440???came with one 66mm barrel

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 Re: Buffet rc prestige with 440hz bell.mouthpiece???
Author: Tony F 
Date:   2014-11-04 16:59

If you buy a digital tuner you can check this yourself. They're available on EBay for only a few dollars.

Tony F.

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 Re: Buffet rc prestige with 440hz bell.mouthpiece???
Author: alexispianokeys 
Date:   2014-11-06 18:18

"Prt b 440" printed on my bell.what's this suppose to mean???

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 Re: Buffet rc prestige with 440hz bell.mouthpiece???
Author: Caroline Smale 
Date:   2014-11-07 00:25

PRT = Prestige
b = Bb clarinet (the A bell is about 2mm longer)
440 ? never seen this on the bell before. May be 440 Hz but then |I have never come across a non-440 marked bell either.



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 Re: Buffet rc prestige with 440hz bell.mouthpiece???
Author: derf5585 
Date:   2014-11-07 01:28

I am going to invent a clarinet tuner that attaches to a clarinet that has a display the clarinetist can see from Google glasses. By "reading" muscle movements it knows what note one is playing. And it has a pitch adjuster to bring the note into tune.

fsbsde@yahoo.com

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 Re: Buffet rc prestige with 440hz bell.mouthpiece???
Author: derf5585 
Date:   2014-11-07 01:29

I am going to invent a clarinet tuner that attaches to a clarinet that has a display the clarinetist can see from Google glasses. By "reading" muscle movements it knows what note one is playing. And it has a pitch adjuster to bring the note into tune.

fsbsde@yahoo.com

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