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Author: alexispianokeys
Date: 2014-10-30 18:35
Anyone who does use this masterpiece?!what number and brand name reed do u use'???
buffet rc prestige green line
Post Edited (2014-10-30 18:40)
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Author: Ed
Date: 2014-10-30 19:34
You might ask Clark his opinion, but I find that the CF+ works with reeds in the range of 3.5-4. This depends a bit on what you are looking for in feel and your experience as a player. The best way to know is to try and see what you like, but Rico Reserve Classic and V12 both work well, but I have tried many that work. It is quite "reed friendly" in my experience.
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Author: KenJarczyk
Date: 2014-10-30 23:38
I really enjoy my Fobes pieces.
I use the CF+ and CWF on my "Brannenized" 1969 Buffet R13, with a Chadash barrel.
I use the CF+ and CWF on my Selmer Series 10 clarinets, 1972 B-flat, 1976 A (the A is a 10-G) both with Fobes Rubber-lined Cocobola barrels. (His A barrel has totally different geometry than his B-flat)
I use the CF+ on my 1951 Selmer Centered Tone, with a Fobes Blackwood barrel.
On the Buffet and Selmer 10 horns, I play Vandoren Rue 56 3-1/2 on the CF+.
On the Selmer Centered Tone, I play Gonzalez FOF 3-1/4. (I've found the FOF reeds run about 1/4 strength harder than the Rue 56.)
I have had very limited success with Vandoren V12 reeds, also 3-1/2.
I've thrown away 30 out of 30 D'Addario Reserve Classic 3-1/2 reeds, which made me angry, since I liked their "beta" test reeds. I don't know what they did, but every reed lacked a core of sound.
Ken Jarczyk, Woodwind Guy.
Ken Jarczyk
Woodwinds Specialist
Eb, C, Bb, A & Bass Clarinets
Soprano, Alto, Tenor & Baritone Saxophones
Flute, Alto Flute, Piccolo
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Author: maxopf
Date: 2014-10-31 00:30
Try some of the reeds Clark Fobes offers on his website. He sells sample packs with a few of each different cut. I use Pilgerstorfer Dolce 4.5s on my CWF mouthpiece (not sure how the CWF compares to the CF+), and my teacher uses V12 4s on the same mouthpiece. (Pilgerstorfer Dolces run slightly softer than V12s, so they're about equivalent. Sometimes a few of the Dolce 4.5s will be slightly too hard, but the softer ones work very well, and the harder ones can be adjusted.)
Post Edited (2014-10-31 03:20)
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Author: KenJarczyk
Date: 2014-10-31 02:36
The CF+ has a lay curve of 17mm and a tip opening of 1.0mm
The CWF has a lay curve of 17.5mm and a tip opening of .96mm.
These are similar as regarding reed strength. But the big difference is inside!
They start life as different styles of Zinner blanks.
The CWF has a deeper baffle chamber than the CF+. The CF+ has a baffle closer to the coveted Chedeville or Kaspar style. That is why the CWF will give much more ring in the tone. The CF+ will give more volume and a wee bit more punch.
Ken Jarczyk, Woodwind Guy.
Ken Jarczyk
Woodwinds Specialist
Eb, C, Bb, A & Bass Clarinets
Soprano, Alto, Tenor & Baritone Saxophones
Flute, Alto Flute, Piccolo
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Author: Ed
Date: 2014-10-31 03:27
I believe the CWF is very slightly asymmetrical. It is very slight, unlike some mouthpieces that have a very pronounced difference in the dimensions from one rail to the other.
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Author: maxopf
Date: 2014-10-31 03:44
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I don't think the rails are asymmetrical (if they are, it's very slight) but the area under the tip rail definitely is. I've attached a picture. The CWF is the one on the right - I just happened to have this picture lying around from when I was comparing it to another mouthpiece (which, coincidentally, I just recently sent to Mr. Fobes to see if he could re-face it.)
Post Edited (2014-10-31 03:47)
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Author: Ed
Date: 2014-10-31 03:55
You can double check with Clark, but I recall that he told me there was a very slight asymmetry.
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Author: KenJarczyk
Date: 2014-10-31 20:59
I've had several conversations with Clark (a delightful fellow, by the way), and he said there is a very slight asymmetry at the tip, that most would not notice, and results in a wee bit more volume.
Ken Jarczyk, Woodwind Guy.
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