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 Thibouville confusion
Author: mameshiba 
Date:   2014-10-15 16:35

Hi all,

There is this antique Thibouvillle Freres barrel-ess clarinet that I am eyeing on. Its supposed to be frm the 1890s? I tried searching abt Thib in this forum but I am more confused. As it seems that the company was taken over, merged a couple of times and the names changed somewhat? The seach came up with Thibouville Masson, Thibouvile Lamy etc and then there is Thib Masson Ecole, which is a student level Thib? So where does this antique Thib Freres belongs to? There is a lyre logo and then there is an oval line with Thibouville Freres written in it and something else that I can't see. Then there is a 'Bevete' written immediately below it. It has no barrel, but is somehat 'incorporated' as the length is the same as modern clarinets.

Thank You

My son is learning to play clarinet now!

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 Re: Thibouville confusion
Author: David Spiegelthal 2017
Date:   2014-10-15 18:03

I don't have associated dates, but the progression of the brand was:

Jerome Thibouville-Lamy (JTL)
Thibouville Freres
Thibouville Freres - M. Masson

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 Re: Thibouville confusion
Author: mameshiba 
Date:   2014-10-16 05:24

David,

Thank you for the info. As for the Thibouville itself, in particular this barrel-less clarinet, how is it?

Thank you

My son is learning to play clarinet now!

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 Re: Thibouville confusion
Author: Tony F 
Date:   2014-10-16 13:36

Thibouville in their various guises made a range of instruments from student level to professional level. Generally their build quality was good. One of my favourite clarinets is a JTL from the 1890's. if the one you're looking at is from the 1890's make sure that it's a low-pitch instrument, not a high-pitch one. the high-pitch instrument will be shorter than the low pitch equivalent and will not be usable today.

Tony F.

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 Re: Thibouville confusion
Author: Chris J 
Date:   2014-10-16 14:32

Just for interest, Copies of 1890 catalogue







Chris

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 Re: Thibouville confusion
Author: srattle 
Date:   2014-10-16 15:12

I've tried a Thibouville that was similar to what you describe.
It was a few years ago, but I remember thinking the sound of the instrument was incredibly elegant, soft and beautiful. I was really tempted by it.

Sadly, the intonation was completely unusable, and with a connected barrel, there is no good way to tune the instrument in an ensemble (except with the mouthpiece, which is not ideal) so I didn't buy it.

I don't have any info about the one you're talking about, but do make sure it will be worth the intonation issues before you buy it

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 Re: Thibouville confusion
Author: mameshiba 
Date:   2014-10-16 19:50

Thank You so much for the replies, Tony, Chris and Srattle.

Chris, from the looks of the clarinet, the one that I am eyeing is the left hand side of the brochure. The barrel-less clarinet.

Low pitch and intonation are the ones that I will ask from the seller then. Is there any other infos that I should ask?

I was wondering myself on how to adjust the clarinet as it has no barrel...

Thank You Again..

My son is learning to play clarinet now!

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