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 PLEYEL CLARINET CONCERTO NEEDED!
Author: yeahhhboiieslice 
Date:   2014-10-08 07:40

Hi I'm playing a recital November 6 and I can't find the Clarinet Concerto by Pleyel anywhere online. Some sites that I found are charging $30 dollars (one was even going for $79) and I'm really not willing to pay that much for a one time thing.

[ Edited - GBK ]

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 Re: PLEYEL CLARINET CONCERTO NEEDED!
Author: pewd 
Date:   2014-10-08 08:26

One of the things one has to learn, is how copyright laws work.
I always require my students to purchase original copies of their solos.

Have you discussed this with your teacher?

- Paul Dods
Dallas, Texas

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 Re: PLEYEL CLARINET CONCERTO NEEDED!
Author: cigleris 
Date:   2014-10-08 13:24

IMSLP has the Concerto with the flute solo and cello solo versions but without the Solo Clarinet version. I assume the one you are looking for is the C major for flute or clarinet or cello? If so I might be able to help. Contact me offline.

Peter Cigleris

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 Re: PLEYEL CLARINET CONCERTO NEEDED!
Author: Dibbs 
Date:   2014-10-08 14:05

pewd wrote:

> One of the things one has to learn, is how copyright laws work.
>


I'm no expert on copyright law but surely it doesn't apply to a work written by someone who died in 1831.

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 Re: PLEYEL CLARINET CONCERTO NEEDED!
Author: rmk54 
Date:   2014-10-08 16:10

Dibbs wrote:
>
> I'm no expert on copyright law but surely it doesn't apply to a
> work written by someone who died in 1831.

-------------------------------------------------------------
...unless the edited edition for sale was published after 1923.

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 Re: PLEYEL CLARINET CONCERTO NEEDED!
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   2014-10-08 17:02

rmk54 wrote:

> Dibbs wrote:
> >
> > I'm no expert on copyright law but surely it doesn't apply to
> a
> > work written by someone who died in 1831.
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> ...unless the edited edition for sale was published after 1923.

And the edits were "significant". Editorial matter might be copyrighted, but the notes are not. "Significant" note edits or additions (not just corrections to the score) might be copyrightable, such as a written-out cadenza where just "cadenza" was specified in the score.

It's never as straightforward as one would like.

'"It was all Mrs. Bumble. She would do it," urged Mr. Bumble; first looking round, to ascertain that his partner had left the room.

"That is no excuse," returned Mr. Brownlow. "You were present on the occasion of the destruction of these trinkets, and, indeed, are the more guilty of the two, in the eye of the law; for the law supposes that your wife acts under your direction."

"If the law supposes that," said Mr. Bumble, squeezing his hat emphatically in both hands, "the law is a ass - a idiot. If that’s the eye of the law, the law is a bachelor; and the worst I wish the law is that his eye may be opened by experience - by experience."' - Charles Dickens, Oliver Twist

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 Re: PLEYEL CLARINET CONCERTO NEEDED!
Author: Jack Kissinger 
Date:   2014-10-08 20:24

To quote Yogi Berra (again), "If you don't know where you're going, you may wind up somewhere else."

There are recordings of two clarinet concertos by Pleyel though it's not clear (from a cursory search, anyway) that he actually intended both to have clarinet versions. Still, there are parts available for both. (The one selling for $79 is not the same concerto as the one selling for $30, BTW.) Which one are you looking for? If you don't know, you can go to Amazon, find the recording of Pleyel clarinet concertos by Dieter Klocker, and listen to the excerpts to see if you can tell. Better, if you have access, you can listen to the complete recordings on Spotify or the Naxos Music Library.

Best regards,
jnk



Post Edited (2014-10-08 21:16)

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 Re: PLEYEL CLARINET CONCERTO NEEDED!
Author: yeahhhboiieslice 
Date:   2014-10-10 16:05

My teacher got one from another clarinetist so it's okay! Thank you

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