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Author: charlesgordon
Date: 2014-09-23 23:09
Hi,
There is a tremolo from Bb5 to D6 at the end of the Prelude in the quintet arrangement of Tombeau de Couperin. I can't for the life of me find an adequate fingering. It has to be soft, and, as it's with the oboe and flute, it cannot stick out. The 'open' D is pretty much out. I also tried fingering 1 and 1 Bb to regular D, but it's just not clean enough (on my instrument at least). Any other ideas out there?
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Author: GBK
Date: 2014-09-23 23:18
Try this:
Bb5 - TR xox /xxx (F/C)
D6 - TR xox/xoo
Unconventional, but very workable.
...GBK
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Author: charlesgordon
Date: 2014-09-23 23:29
GBK wrote:
> Try this:
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> Bb5 - TR xox /xxx (F/C)
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> D6 - TR xox/xoo
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> Unconventional, but very workable.
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> ...GBK
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Thanks! I'll give that a shot.
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Author: Jack Kissinger
Date: 2014-09-24 00:13
You don't mention exactly which "open" D you've tried or why it doesn't work for you but, if Glenn's fingering doesn't work well, and you are truly playing D open, try improving the D by leaving the Bb side key down and adding additional right hand fingers that have negligible effect on the Bb but which tend to raise the pitch of the D and make it a little easier to play softly. The best combination I found was fingering Bb as:
RT xxo (right side Bb) oo,o (G#/Eb)
and the D as:
ooo (right side Bb) oo,o (G#/Eb)
(in other words, open D with the addition of the right-hand Bb trill key, the lower joint sliver key and right-hand G#/Eb.)
You can also try this without the right side sliver key and experiment substituting different spatula keys for (G#/Eb). That tended to lower the pitch for me, though.
Best regards,
jnk
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Author: John Peacock
Date: 2014-09-24 09:43
I just performed this quintet. I found I could produce the trill with the standard fingering for D and adding the other 2 RH fingers + LH F/C key to go down to a fake Bb. But I found it hard to start on that Bb, so you have to play the Bb note once on a standard fingering and then trill down from D as above.
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2014-09-24 17:10
I've always played the regular Bb using the side key and while holding the side key down I pick up the all the fingers in the LH to trill to the "opened" D. In a trill it works fine on my clarinet.
ESP eddiesclarinet.com
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Author: GBK
Date: 2014-09-25 06:58
Just looked in my personal fingering archives (I collect different submissions which I find interesting) and found one contributed by Tony Pay. It's a good one:
Bb -TR x x o / x x x F#/C# key
D - (no thumb, no register key) o o o / x x o
...GBK
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Author: Barry Vincent
Date: 2014-09-25 10:38
GBK On all my Clarinets TR xox /xxx (F/C) gives a harmonic C if I understand all this correctly. And TR xox / xxx gives a harmonic B.
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