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 Back to the Future
Author: FDF 
Date:   2014-08-02 02:57

3D Printers have reproduced Adolphe Sax’s original mouthpiece. parts for antique horns, and a playable alto sax, not to mention assorted other instruments, etc. How do you see 3D printers changing the way we make music and our methods of instrument repair and construction?



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 Re: Back to the Future
Author: rtmyth 
Date:   2014-08-02 03:50

It's here to stay. Can already be used to reproduce mps.

richard smith

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 Re: Back to the Future
Author: clarnibass 
Date:   2014-08-02 08:07

People have already printed flutes and saxophones. Neither was very good, but I guess they can improve it.

I was looking into copying my glasses with a 3D printer and was explained why it can't be good enough yet.

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 Re: Back to the Future
Author: ruben 
Date:   2014-08-02 13:12

What material do these 3D printers use in their reproductions? Could they use ebonite to copy a mouthpiece?

rubengreenbergparisfrance@gmail.com


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 Re: Back to the Future
Author: jdbassplayer 
Date:   2014-08-02 16:42

The only two materials they can use are ABS plastic and PLA plastic.

Personally I have printed out several mouthpieces on my printer. Generally they need a lot of finishing work before they are even usable.



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 Re: Back to the Future
Author: FDF 
Date:   2014-08-02 18:37

ruben asked, “What material do these 3D printers use in their reproductions? Could they use ebonite to copy a mouthpiece?”

The printers are undergoing rapid changes in capability. A new VisiJet printer uses compositions such as ABS and a black rubber-like material (according to their product specs.).

Here is one article on uses for music.

http://www.engineering.com/3DPrinting/3DPrintingArticles/ArticleID/8153/Researcher-Gain-Insight-into-18th-Century-Instruments-with-3D-Printing.aspx



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 Re: Back to the Future
Author: ruben 
Date:   2014-08-03 15:58

FDF: Thank you. Of course, these printers will have to use material with good acoustic properties for the clarinet if we are to avail ourselves of them. Some plastics might work: delerin, for example. A delerin mouthpiece should work pretty well. (nb: delerin is a high-density plastic; a density superior to blackwood)

rubengreenbergparisfrance@gmail.com


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 Re: Back to the Future
Author: FDF 
Date:   2014-08-07 03:47

Thanks, rubin for your creative response. That's just what i was looking for. This is a technology that is a game changer. My question was meant to bring forth ideas that will grow out of this developing technology. Thanks for your response.



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 Re: Back to the Future
Author: derf5585 
Date:   2014-08-07 04:28

Can a 3-D printer print another 3-D printer
Can a 3-D printer print money

fsbsde@yahoo.com

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 Re: Back to the Future
Author: FDF 
Date:   2014-08-07 05:00

Can a 3d printer print you?

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 Re: Back to the Future
Author: derf5585 
Date:   2014-08-07 06:09

Then I would have a clone
Can a clone get a passport?

fsbsde@yahoo.com

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 Re: Back to the Future
Author: mnhnhyouh 
Date:   2014-08-07 08:47

I think the current 3d printers should be looked at like building sized computers that did very little in the 1950s.

The future for this technology is atomic printing, where an object is built up atom by atom, with most elements available. Remember when IBM wrote their name with about 15 atoms?

With the right data one could then print a wood clarinet, with all the keywork, pads, cork, etc. The wood part could then be more regular than wood, with no likelyhood of cracking, but with other enhancements to improve tone.

How long?

Well from building sized computers to something 1000 times more powerful that fits in my pocket took 60 years.

First heavier than air flight advancing to people on the moon took about the same.



h

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 Re: Back to the Future
Author: mnhnhyouh 
Date:   2014-08-07 09:03

Just did some back of the envelope calculations using Moore's Law*. From 1950 to 2013 there are enough sets of doubling to make my phone 1x10^12 times more powerful than a computer in 1950.

That is 1,000,000,000,000 times more powerful. I think that is one quadrillion.

Not sure 3d printing technology can keep pace with that!

*Moore's Law describes computer technology doubling in speed every 18 months and has proved very robust over a long period.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore%27s_law

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 Re: Back to the Future
Author: ramsa 
Date:   2014-08-07 23:04

It's cool to predict what the future could bring for music, but the reality of how great the current instruments and mouthpieces are shouldn't be overlooked. I was thinking the next generation might have access to an easy, unrestricted supply of repair parts, or styles of mouthpieces and materials. It's STILL gonna be how the player is taught, and how much practice is done, isn't it?

Like the improvements in "smart" homes... There's always going to be a demand for a house with a fireplace. The simple things in life are pretty constant.
IMHO....

This is a genuine signature.

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 Re: Back to the Future
Author: FDF 
Date:   2014-08-12 02:36

Gentlemen,

Thank you for your prognoses. mnhnhyouh, you have given a very scientific and creative response to my question. I greatly appreciate what you have suggested.

As a person who worked on a room sized computer back in the 50s and now have a computer in my pocket, I truly understand your predictions.

Thanks.



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