Advertising and Web Hosting on Woodwind.Org!

Woodwind.OrgThe Clarinet BBoardThe C4 standard

 
  BBoard Equipment Study Resources Music General    
 
 New Topic  |  Go to Top  |  Go to Topic  |  Search  |  Help/Rules  |  Smileys/Notes  |  Log In   Newer Topic  |  Older Topic 
 Frequency Calibration....
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2014-07-28 20:38

Yesterday I noticed the pipe band were tuning the Bb of their drones to 480Hz. So if that's the Bb, what would that make the A?

I realise they call the written/fingered note given by the drones and all six fingers (and left thumb) down on the chanter A instead of normal woodwind fingering/writing where six fingers down is either written/fingered D or G, but 480Hz is nearly a B in Concert Pitch (with A440Hz, Bb is 466.16Hz and B is 493.88Hz).

And does anyone know a page which will show the frequencies for any given note and will give the calibration for the A if you type in Bb=480Hz?

This chart http://www.phy.mtu.edu/~suits/notefreqs.html only has lists from 432Hz up to 446Hz, but it would be good to see exactly the pitch the pipers are using. It's clearly High Pitch, but is it 452Hz or more?

And before you all start saying "use the formula to work it out" - I'm not a mathematician and got GCSE grade E for maths both times I attempted the paper, so maths is definitely not my forte. So if there's a simple way to work out the calibration from the Bb being 480Hz, then please let me know.

Chris.

Post Edited (2014-07-28 20:39)

Reply To Message
 
 Re: Frequency Calibration....
Author: cyclopathic 
Date:   2014-07-28 20:49

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_pitch_notation

480 would make Bb in High Pitch (which what they probably use)

and yes it is 452/453 HP vs 439/440 LP



Post Edited (2014-07-28 20:55)

Reply To Message
 
 Re: Frequency Calibration....
Author: Caroline Smale 
Date:   2014-07-29 01:46

Good Heavens - have pipe bands actually started tuning!



Reply To Message
 
 Re: Frequency Calibration....
Author: Michael E. Shultz 
Date:   2014-07-29 02:18

Here is an article that explains bagpipe tuning:
http://cityofoaks.home.netcom.com/Bagpipe_Tuning.html

"The bagpipe scale does not match any of the scales used in modern Western 'concert' music."

"Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read."
Groucho Marx

Reply To Message
 
 Re: Frequency Calibration....
Author: tictactux 2017
Date:   2014-07-29 02:21

I've been in Quimper (Brittany) last week and saw the Bagad Kemper Band. The Director would, upon tuning, hold his tuner to every drone of every player and pull out/push in each and every of them, so yes, they are indeed tuning.

--
Ben

Reply To Message
 
 Re: Frequency Calibration....
Author: fskelley 
Date:   2014-07-29 02:47

I've told this story here before, but at my age I'm expected to repeat myself anyway. True or not, it's funny.

The story goes that in the days of reel to reel analog studio tape, an entire album of bagpipe music was produced with the tape running backwards- end to beginning- and nobody noticed until after the LP's were on the store shelves.

Stan in Orlando

EWI 4000S with modifications

Reply To Message
 
 Re: Frequency Calibration....
Author: clarnibass 
Date:   2014-07-29 09:13

http://www.flutopedia.com/pitch_to_frequency.htm

Not as easy as what you wanted, but using the work around of choosing a note and putting numbers in the A4 box you can change until you get the pitch of whatever note you chose, in that case Bb 480.

Maybe there is an even easier calculator, just Google it. This is one is still very easy anyway.

Reply To Message
 
 Re: Frequency Calibration....
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2014-07-30 00:00

That's exactly what I was looking for!

So with the Bb being 480Hz means they're calibrated to A453.06Hz in real terms (even though it's their written/fingered A that's 480Hz).

Chris.

Reply To Message
 
 Re: Frequency Calibration....
Author: Nobody 
Date:   2014-08-02 19:52

[Content deleted]

Reply To Message
 Avail. Forums  |  Threaded View   Newer Topic  |  Older Topic 


 Avail. Forums  |  Need a Login? Register Here 
 User Login
 User Name:
 Password:
 Remember my login:
   
 Forgot Your Password?
Enter your email address or user name below and a new password will be sent to the email address associated with your profile.
Search Woodwind.Org

Sheet Music Plus Featured Sale

The Clarinet Pages
is sponsored by:

For Sale
Put your ads for items you'd like to sell here. Free! Please, no more than two at a time - ads removed after two weeks.

Events
Major events especially for clarinetists

Accessories
Accessories that every clarinetist needs - reed makers and shapers, ligatures, greases, oils, and preservatives ... and more!

Music & Books
CDs, Sheet Music, and some of the greatest reference books ever written!

Miscellaneous
Services and products too varied to categorize! Repair, recording, news

Instruments
Retailers and manufacturers of clarinets, both modern and early replica

Mouthpieces & Barrels
Fine makers of mouthpieces and barrels, from wood to crystal to hard rubber and plastic

Reeds
Great reeds available from around the world

Service
Instrument repairs, restorations, adjustments, and overhauls.

 
     Copyright © Woodwind.Org, Inc. All Rights Reserved    Privacy Policy    Contact charette@woodwind.org