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Author: Bruno
Date: 2014-06-09 20:14
I have a question - two, actually, but I have to be careful not to trigger unnecessary enthusiasm lest my unimportant topic is set aside in the scramble to have the last, best word on some other more profound topic.
Here are the questions:
1. What is the modern (i.e. latest iteration) equivalent Vandoren mpc of their 5RV-Lyre in facing length and tip opening, etc? Is the difference, if any, worth buying it?
2. Should the new Rico mpcs be considered as well?
If, so, please reference your answer utilizing question #1 parameters.
Thank so much.
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2014-06-10 00:26
I just want to clarify. Are you looking for a different mouthpiece that has these specs, or are you looking for a 5RV Lyre (which is still current).
I have a friend who had several Ricos on trial and he found them to be pretty good. In the end though he sent them all back because he wasn't satisfied enough with the response (articulation characteristics).
............Paul Aviles
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2014-06-10 00:59
The new D'Addario Reserve Mouthpiece you might want to give a try to is the X10E (1.11 tip)
No longer made by Rico. D'Addario now owns the Company, has for a while.
That will be a good competitor to the Vandoren 5RV Lyre.
A friend (Professor at a PA College, non D'Addario Artist) uses the Reserve Mouthpiece for his students, and finds the Vandoren to be too resistant.
I don't find that at all, but do strongly prefer the Reserve MP to the 5RV Lyre.
M13, 15 are more my style for a Vandoren Mouthpiece, and I have both as spares.
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Author: Bruno
Date: 2014-06-10 02:18
Paul A;
I have, play, and like the 5RV Lyre, but like all of us, I'm always looking to find something just that tiny bit better - more responsive, different chamber perhaps, to lend to a deeper, richer sound.
Or perhaps it's just a way to spend some money, then wait for the new toy to arrive, open the box, look it over, then blow it for awhile, discover it's no better than the old one and throw it in the box with the rest of them.
David B:
I LIKE resistance in a mpc. For me, too free blowing a mpc is harder to control. I need that feeling of solidness in the horn.
You say that you "strongly prefer the Reserve MP to the 5RV Lyre".
Why?
And what do the M13 and 15 have that the 5RV Lyre doesn't?
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Author: tylerleecutts
Date: 2014-06-10 02:27
Try the M30 Lyre then.
I found it to have similar characteristics to the 5RV Lyre, but a bit more resistant, with more hold. I personally don't play on it, but enjoyed it every time I played it. For me, the 5RV Lyre is a bit too squirrely compared to the M30 Lyre.
I thought the X5 would be closest to the 5RVs, but the X10E is supposedly very good. The pitch level may be too high for your tastes, though. My favorite Reserve model was the X5- had the most singing quality with enough flexibility and response for my liking.
Good luck! There's nothing 'wrong' with the 5RV Lyre, but if you want something with a bit more hold, I would definitely recommend the M30 Lyre. I think it was designed to be a bridge between the 5RV Lyre and the M30.
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2014-06-10 06:41
I really like the 5RV Lyre.
My others that always find a place for me are the M13 (non-lyre), Masters CL4 (current favorite), and Greg Smith Chicago Kaspar (no. 12 I think).
I was never one to get too caught up in studying the actual dimensions. I just know these mouthpieces play similarly for me.
.............Paul Aviles
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