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Author: sspengler
Date: 2014-04-22 03:06
Hi all,
Been lurking for a bit. Decided to join because I saw an odd post on craigslist for a clarinet. Post said Selmer and in the return email, the lady told me it's an "Evrette" (typo, maybe?) with a serial number of 200220. She also says it's made in West Germany. And the year made is 1982. The seller says she's the original owner. She also listed it as being wooden.
I'm a bit confused because, from what I've read, none of this really matches up....
Can any of you guys help? Thanks in advance.
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Author: Caroline Smale
Date: 2014-04-22 03:11
Could be early Buffet Evette made for them by Schreiber in Germany, roughly equivalent to the later Buffet E11 up until Buffet moved manufacture of this to France.
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Author: Jack Kissinger
Date: 2014-04-22 17:20
I (mostly) agree with Norman, except I would say it is a late "Evette," rather than an early one. Evettes were made in France from their beginning (1920s or 30s?) to around 1978 . However, around 1978 (if memory serves), production shifted to the Schreiber factory in (then) West Germany where Evettes were made until the name change to E11, sometime in the early to mid-80s. The serial numbers of the German Evettes are six digits with no letter prefix and the numbering system was carried forward to the E11s. The design of the German Evettes, BTW, was different than that of the immediately preceding French Evettes and was AFAIK the design of the E11 (so, in a sense, you could say the instrument is an early E11).
Perhaps the instrument has a Selmer mouthpiece with it (or, as old as it is, a Selmer case). Sellers who don't know much about instruments sometimes incorrectly assume that the name on the mouthpiece or case is the name of the instrument's manufacturer. To be on the safe side, and rule out a "mongrel" clarinet though, you might want to ask the seller exactly where "Selmer" is marked.
Best regards,
jnk
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Author: sspengler
Date: 2014-04-23 01:16
Thanks, Norman and Jack.
It was a theory of mine that it might have a different mouthpiece. I'll ask her where the mark is.
Do you have an opinion on a Schreiber-made Evette (if that's in fact what this one is)?
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2014-04-23 01:38
For an entry level wooden clarinet, they are very well built and reliable.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: sspengler
Date: 2014-04-23 07:05
She sent me some better pictures of it. It does indeed have a Selmer mouthpiece and the rest of the pieces have an Evette stamp.
There's another one I'm considering as well. It's also Evette made in Germany with a 4 digit serial number, no prefixes. Seller said he'd had it reconditioned, but it looks like it might be a plastic one. So far I can't find any resources on Schreiber serial numbers..
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2014-04-23 10:45
Schreiber serial numbers went by the wayside when the B&H group (or The Music Group as it was called at that time) split up and the website went down with it - there was an excellent serial number search engine on their site, but alas it is no more.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: sspengler
Date: 2014-04-24 05:55
That's a shame that we can no longer use that resource. I checked this one out today and it was actually a 5 digit serial number. They didn't notice the last number. It would probably still be a Schreiber, I'm assuming. Wasn't too thrilled with it at any rate...
Hoping that the model (the one that has a Selmer mouthpiece) I originally posted about is a good fit for me. I'm looking at it tomorrow.
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Author: Steven Ocone
Date: 2014-04-25 01:03
Just to throw in a bit of confusion regarding Evettes. I recently had an Evette Master Model in my shop, serial number D40187, made in France. The key work was identical to an E11.
Steve Ocone
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Author: Jack Kissinger
Date: 2014-04-26 07:42
Not that confusing. Evette Master Models were French Evettes. The best evidence I've been able to find indicates that these were probably just production line Evettes that turned out particularly well, i.e., played particularly well in their final test. Their serial numbers are mixed in with "normal" Evettes. When the Evette became the E11, the Evette Master Model became the E12, produced in West Germany.
I must say, however, that I'm surprised your clarinet's keywork was identical to an E11. I have an Evette Master Model (serial number D38xxx) made around 1976. Its keywork is not identical to the early E11 I have. Most notably, the left hand E/B and F#/C# cluster keys have pin-and-socket linkages (characteristic of French Evettes) while my E11 has an "overlapping" linkage (no pin and socket), characteristic of the E11.
Best regards,
jnk
Post Edited (2014-04-26 07:44)
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Author: Steven Ocone
Date: 2014-04-26 15:52
I looked at my photos. The photos are not 100% clear, but the one I worked on doesn't seem to have the pin and socket linkage.
Steve Ocone
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