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Author: gsurosey
Date: 2014-03-20 08:53
We'll be playing Peter and the Wolf for our next orchestra concert set (starting rehearsals the first week of April). From what I can see from the part that's available at IMSLP, there is only one clarinet part. Are there any solos or anything that explicitly should only be played by one player (there are 3 of us, so it looks like we'll all be playing the whole thing unless the conductor indicates otherwise at spots)? I don't know the piece, so I can't tell just by looking at it.
I've seen other postings that talk about errors in the parts. Are any of the part's on IMSLP error-free (there a re different version and in different keys)? It looks like some parts lie better on the A and some on the Bb, so I'm hoping that switching in some places will be feasible. It looks like someone figured it out on the first section of parts posted there, but it's hard for me to read, and if there are error's they'd need to be fixed.
Thanks for any info!
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Rachel
Clarinet Stash:
Bb/A: Buffet R13
Eb: Bundy
Bass: Royal Global Max
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Author: clarinetist04
Date: 2014-03-20 09:19
As I recall, it's a 1-clarinet piece. The whole section that features the clarinet should really be a solo. Of particular importance is the passage from 20 to 21. That's a huge solo and is timed with the dancers - this would be very, very difficult to do with the whole section playing it. Other big solos are just after 10 and any time that figure shows up, which is quite often.
I've never played this with a whole section - only as a soloist - and after perusing several you tube performances of orchestras playing this, they also only use 1 clarinet.
Any of you full-time orchestra players ever use more than 1 clarinet in this piece?
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Author: GBK
Date: 2014-03-20 10:39
I've played Peter and the Wolf at least 30 times over the past decade and will be doing it again a few times this summer. It is scored for single woodwinds. The entire part is very exposed and there are numerous important solo passages, especially the infamous "cat climbing the tree".
BTW - The IMSLP part is a cut and paste mess. Don't even think about using it. Play the entire piece on the A clarinet.
...GBK
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2014-03-20 10:42
>> I don't know the piece <<
Listen to it. There are probably a few version on Youtube and it can't be that hard to find anyway. This piece is the reason I started playing clarinet and is very special for me
Though I've never played it and I'm not interested in playing it.
A lot of the clarinet parts are "mysterious" and might lose some of that with a section. Imagine a cat or a person sneaking around vs. a few/many cats or people sneaking around...
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Author: rmk54
Date: 2014-03-20 16:19
And, you really need an A clarinet as many solos descend to the low E (E-flat on the B-flat clarinet).
If you can, try to get the Boosey and Hawkes edition. This would not be on IMSLP as it is still copyright in the US.
BTW, some parts are much easier on B-flat, so some of us switch instruments for sections of the piece.
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Author: gsurosey
Date: 2014-03-20 18:55
Our librarian told us in rehearsal last night that the piece is only accessible on IMSLP (not available via rental anymore according to whoever he called to get the music).
As for doubling versus not doubling, I guessing (hoping) that we'll find out at the first rehearsal whether or not parts will be doubled or it'll be one on a part. It's a community group, so we commonly double things (and there won't be dancers, but I believe there will be a narrator).
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Rachel
Clarinet Stash:
Bb/A: Buffet R13
Eb: Bundy
Bass: Royal Global Max
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Author: rmk54
Date: 2014-03-20 21:20
Your librarian is mistaken (I assume you are in the US - if you are in Canada s/he is correct).
It is available to rent by G. Schirmer.
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Author: pewd
Date: 2014-03-20 23:15
What RMK said - there are low E's on the A clarinet.
There is only 1 cat - one clarinet only.
- Paul Dods
Dallas, Texas
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Author: Caroline Smale
Date: 2014-03-21 03:49
It's not an easy piece for even an experienced player - would be a nightmare trying to synchronise 2 or 3 less experienced.
Tonally it's a solo for all the participants all the way through.
As Paul said 1 cat = 1 clarinet.
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Author: MSK
Date: 2014-03-21 04:18
My orchestra always does it as clarinet solo which is how our edition is written. The rest of the section gets to go home early or read a book
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Author: marcia
Date: 2014-03-22 03:39
My community orchestra played it a few years ago. Our conductor agreed that we could both play it, as we said we would be very observant of dynamics. However when it came to the cat climbing the tree there was only one.
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Author: fskelley
Date: 2014-03-22 03:57
The idea of most of a clarinet section reading books during a performance reminds me of the description I heard years ago of a trumpet player's job during a live musical. He'd sit reading a magazine for 15 min, then perk up for a min or 2, pick up his horn, root toot toot, then set it down and pick up the magazine again.
I think that only works in an orchestra pit, unless your audience and management are very laid back (the word "mellow" comes to mind, as in "Have You Never Been..."). Maybe union rules?
Stan in Orlando
EWI 4000S with modifications
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Author: pewd
Date: 2014-03-22 18:48
read GBK's post again - the entire wind section scoring is thin.
One cat, one duck, one bird, etc. Its not written with a massive wind section in mind.
- Paul Dods
Dallas, Texas
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Author: William
Date: 2014-03-22 22:05
Usual practice is for one very talented clarinetist playing it on the A clarinet. Go to John Moses site for a very nice rendition of the famous, "Cat up the Tree" solo. He makes it sound easy.........
http://www.johnmosesclarinet.com/
Post Edited (2014-03-22 22:08)
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