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Author: Vrat
Date: 2014-02-02 19:20
What is "false key change"? What is the difference between true and flase key change?
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2014-02-02 20:56
Is that a momentary modulation that adds accidentals to certain notes while still being written in the home key (no actual key change) instead of there actually being a true key change?
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2014-02-02 16:43
A quick "yahoo" search picked up this:
Musical analysis of “The Song Is You” [written by Jerome Kern]
Original Key C major; false key change to E major during “B”
Form A1 - A2 - B - A3
Tonality Major throughout
Movement “A” is primarily step-wise descending; “B” contains a series of lyrical upward leaps followed by stepwise descents
Comments (assumed background)
The potential monotony of repeated notes in “A” is relieved by embellishing tones and use of both common-tone and leading diminished seventh chords. The melodic contour and harmonic changes in “B” offer an almost spectacular contrast to “A,” with leaping, lyrical intervals and an unusual chord progression. Suddenly shifting from the tonic of C major to E major, it continues in this key for three measures. As the melody note lands on the major seventh, it becomes the common-tone of the following Eb (D#) chord, the V7 of yet another new key, G# minor. It starts going through the cycle of fifths, getting as far as B7. Here the melody note is on the root tone of the “chord of the moment,” which happens to be the initial melody note of “A” (the major seventh over the Cma7 chord). This makes for a smooth transition between two distant keys that, while unusual and exotic, is not jarring to the ear.
This leads me to believe that a "false key change" is only a device to get you 'somewhere else.'
....................Paul Aviles
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Author: Bruno
Date: 2014-02-03 01:15
I'm thinking of "Once In A While" by Michael Edwards. The tune's in F but the bridge goes to A major. Is that a "false key change"? ( I've never heard key changes in pop tunes called that.)
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Author: Wes
Date: 2014-02-02 21:58
That was referred to as the "Sears and Roebuck" bridge changes at one time.
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Author: ned
Date: 2014-02-03 03:40
I'm not sure what is exactly a ''false'' key change? I'd say it's something coined by the classical or schooled fraternity?
A key change is a key change, whatever it amounts to. To make a piece interesting, I guess composers have to use all sorts of compositional devices, but I would hesitate to call them false
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Author: kilo
Date: 2014-02-03 08:35
They're real all right. They just don't show up in the key signature.
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Author: Lelia Loban ★2017
Date: 2014-02-03 13:54
>They're real all right. They just don't show up in the key signature.>
I'm guessing, but I wonder whether the false key change could be the opposite. Maybe it's a false key change if the key modulation doesn't occur until *after* the key change in the signature. One likely place for that to happen is on the key modulation from one movement to the next.
For example: The first movement is in the key of C (with modulations) and ends in the key of C. It's got the signature of no sharps or flats. Now we go to the second movement. Most of the second movement is in the key of E minor, but we start out in A minor, relative to C major. But since the second movement ends in G minor, it gets the key signature for G minor from the get-go, and we see an accidental to make all the Fs naturals until we modulate into G minor and start using that F-sharp. It's a false key change until then.
Again -- fair warning -- I'm guessing.
Lelia
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Author: brycon
Date: 2014-02-03 19:45
Sounds like pop music jargon for tonicizations, which are not a 'change of key' insofar as they lack the sort of structural weight that would result in the hierarchization of other key centers. This is, of course, what we mean when we say that a piece is in the key of x,y, or z.
Lelia, most composers would mark such structurally significant modulations with new key signatures.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2014-02-03 20:09
What about modal pieces? They're not exactly in the key signatures implied.
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Author: kilo
Date: 2014-02-03 18:12
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Sounds like pop music jargon for tonicizations, which are not a 'change of key' insofar as they lack the sort of structural weight that would result in the hierarchization of other key centers.
I think you're right.
I usually think of "false keys" in relation to songbook standards where the bridge will often shift to a different tonal center. In a 32 bar tune there's no reason to identify a new key signature for the space of eight measures; accidentals will suffice. And this is developed even further in jazz compositions, like Coltrane's "Giant Steps" which has ii-V's and ii-V-I's based in the keys of B, G, and Eb which change every few measures. It would make even less sense to label every key change here, although it's a good way of studying the tune.
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What about modal pieces? They're not exactly in the key signatures implied.
You had to bring this up?  You're right. I've seen the same modal tune printed out three different ways — sometimes there will be a "key signature", sometimes just chord names. sometimes they add "dorian (etc)" in parentheses.
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Author: Bruno
Date: 2014-02-04 02:23
I suggest that we decide that the term never existed, doesn't exist now, and never will exist. It's utterly meaningless and offers no insight into anything.
Our lives will be much happier. I never heard of a "false key change" before I looked at this thread. Nothing in music is false and I aim to keep it that way in my own musical life.
Maybe we could debate the number of teeth in a horse's mouth.
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Author: Lelia Loban ★2017
Date: 2014-02-04 17:47
>Lelia, most composers would mark such structurally significant modulations with new key signatures.
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Maybe most composers *should* do that, but many follow the old rule that the key signature for the movement is the key in which the movement ends. There will be key signature changes along with way, but in baroque and ealy classical music, the signature at the beginning of a middle or final movement is often at odds with the first few bars of that movement.
Lelia
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Post Edited (2014-02-04 17:56)
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Author: brycon
Date: 2014-02-05 03:43
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Maybe most composers *should* do that, but many follow the old rule that the key signature for the movement is the key in which the movement ends. There will be key signature changes along with way, but in baroque and ealy classical music, the signature at the beginning of a middle or final movement is often at odds with the first few bars of that movement.
That's interesting. I'm not familiar with any progressively tonal pieces (that is, pieces that begin and end in keys that are different and yet bear the same structural weight) that predate the middle of the 19th century. What pieces in particular do you mean?
As far as Baroque music, its modulations are localized events- like what we now call tonicizations.
As Charles Rosen has pointed out, the "classical style" was the result of composers (Haydn and Mozart) realizing the importance of modulation on a structural level (sonata form). Bach's music may be on the dominant at certain moments, but it isn't in the dominant, as one would find in the exposition of a Hadyn, Mozart, or Beethoven sonata form movement.
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Author: fskelley
Date: 2014-02-09 04:21
I thought it meant a change from key of F# to Gb, or something equivalent. Just the kind of thing to put in a sight reading piece to mess with the students.
Stan in Orlando
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Post Edited (2014-02-09 04:21)
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Author: Merlin_Williams
Date: 2014-02-10 01:29
Jazz musicians usually refer to any shifts in tonal center as an internal modulation, or temporary modulation.
I've never heard it referred to as a false key change.
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