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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2013-12-16 09:07
Has anyone tried the Reedjuvinate, which is a wet storage system? http://reedjuvinate.com/
Beware of the nauseating photo of mold. I'm not happy with the choice of orange-box Ricos. . . .
Ken Shaw
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2013-12-16 11:53
Maybe I'm missing the details, but I don't see different sizes for say bass reeds vs. soprano. At three reeds per container that's at least $45 for a box of reeds (and that's with throwing the worst one out).
...............Paul Aviles
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Author: The Doctor ★2017
Date: 2013-12-16 15:32
The description on the website, in my view, does not tell how the system works and only gives weight change data to describe the "science". The claims are not IMO substantiated with any kind of objective data. In my own testing using water containing dye it appears that short periods (less than 5 minutes) of rehydration often does not fully hydrate the reeds. Storing them in a humid environment or in water may fully hydrate reeds, perhaps as the Rico humidity system operates, but reeds can easily become water logged and less playable. On my shelf of fantastic, probably not commercially viable, and not ready for prime time is a chemical mixture added to tap water that allows quicker and more fully hydrated reeds. Comparing dye absorption quantitative area measurements would be one way to determine reed hydration (but playing characteristics are a subjective, and highly unreproducible characteristic). I would like to see a more extensive and "scientific" explanation of the product!
L. Omar Henderson
www.DoctorsProd.com
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Author: Claire Annette
Date: 2014-07-07 19:14
I'm bringing this thread back up again because I just saw this product, for the first time, on Facebook. I'm intrigued and would like to know if anyone has used this and what feedback you might have.
I'd also like to know if anyone has had success with a knock-off version in a water-tight case. Right now, Dollar Tree stores have small rectangular cases (about the size of Altoids tins but a little deepr) with a rubber gasket that look like they'd be perfect for reeds. I just need to figure out how to use them effectively for reeds. Suggestions or ideas?
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Author: Bruno
Date: 2014-07-07 19:51
Buy a small bottle of 3% H2O2, punch a pin hole in the foil under-cap and squirt a half-inch into an old shot glass. Drop in your reed(s) before you assemble your clarinet.
By the time you're done, your reed can be blotted on a Kleenex, popped into your mouth for a moment while you mount your mouthpiece and ligature, and you'll be all ready to go, essentially for the remainder of your life.
Change the H2O2 daily. Place a 3X5 card over it when it doesn't contain reeds. The card can be the one with clarinet tips and reminders on it. It will be handy there.
Your reeds will be free of bacteria, viruses, malevolent medieval curses and various other poisons, toxins, corruptions, venoms and noxious and malodorous substances.
No need for alcohol, steaming potions, "scientific" concoctions which enjoy no evidence supporting their claims, or snake oils from any species.
Merlin>
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Author: kdk
Date: 2014-07-07 20:16
If leaving the reeds in a half inch of the H2O2 solution is good, would an inch (covering most of the length of the vamp) be better? How long will the H2O2 solution remain stable in a closed container?
If I pour enough into a 35 mm film holder (which is what I wet my reeds in now) to cover the entire vamp and then, when finished, close the holder with the push-on top, which is water tight (so probably air tight as well)...
1. will the deeper coverage be beneficial to the reed or to my health?
2. will the H2O2 keep its potency as a disinfectant overnight or even over a couple of nights, allowing re-use to make up for using more at once?
Karl
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Author: Claire Annette
Date: 2014-07-07 21:22
David, are you too young or do you remember having rolling papers in your case in high school? I did. I purchased mine. Nowadays, a teenager would be put in juvenile detention for possession of drug paraphernalia! (Not to mention reed knives...)
"I SWEAR officer! The vodka in that little container is for my reeds!!!"
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Author: TJTG
Date: 2014-07-07 21:54
Claire, I actually used those little contained because I had the same thought. They held the reeds perfectly with the addition of a small sponge (i tried it in winter). The problem with them is without any air circulation they will mold very quickly, 3 days and my e flat reeds were trash. I drilled small holes but they weren't very aesthetically pleasing.... I decided to pass in the end.
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Author: Bruno
Date: 2014-07-07 23:34
Author: DavidBlumberg (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net - (Verizon FiOS) Newtown Square, PA United States)
Date: 2014-07-07 20:14
Hydrogen peroxide rejuvinates the reeds for about a day, then they die.
David Blumberg
http://www.MyTempoMusic.com
D'Addario Reed Artist
Phila. Orchestra Intl. Festival Clarinet Faculty
What does that mean, "then they die"?
B>
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Author: Bruno
Date: 2014-07-07 23:46
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Author: kdk (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net - (Verizon FiOS) Langhorne, PA United States)
Date: 2014-07-07 20:16
If leaving the reeds in a half inch of the H2O2 solution is good, would an inch (covering most of the length of the vamp) be better? How long will the H2O2 solution remain stable in a closed container?
If I pour enough into a 35 mm film holder (which is what I wet my reeds in now) to cover the entire vamp and then, when finished, close the holder with the push-on top, which is water tight (so probably air tight as well)...
1. will the deeper coverage be beneficial to the reed or to my health?
2. will the H2O2 keep its potency as a disinfectant overnight or even over a couple of nights, allowing re-use to make up for using more at once?
Karl
Hi Karl!
1. The H2O2 doesn't have to be deep. It will travel up the reed fibers by capillary attraction and moisten the entire vamp. Besides, it doesn't matter.
We don't have to exclude every last bacterium and virus to protect our health. It's actually good to challenge our immune system occasionally. How else would it know which is the enemy and which the friend?
2. Yes, a reasonably airtight, light proof container preserves its freshness. H2O2 changes to H2O in the presence of light and air.
Using more will not significantly delay H2O2 -->H2O.
H2O2 stays fresh in its original light-proof, tight-capped bottle for some weeks, perhaps months. I find I can use an entire bottle half-ounce at a time and at the end it's still pretty potent. If I forget to blot it I can taste its bitterness.
bruno>
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2014-07-07 23:46
Peroxide dissolves the grease and oil out of the interstices in the cane. This frees up the response.
The peroxide also raises the grain, which lets water get in further and more quickly. That's why using peroxide revives the reed for only a day or two. At least that's been my experience.
Ken Shaw
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Author: Bruno
Date: 2014-07-07 23:52
Author: cyclopathic (209.22.79.---)
Date: 2014-07-07 20:18
@Bruno one word: Listerine
cyclopathic: Two words: tastes awful
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Author: Bruno
Date: 2014-07-08 01:02
I guess I should have mentioned that I dress the more needy of my reeds with . . . . No, Ladies and Gents! Not with little scraps of cane! I use instead . . . Scotch Brite, cutting ½" strips off the pad and rubbing down the offending reed vamp with a forefinger. Works great, never changes its "roughness quotient" shall we say, and seemingly lasts forever.
It's always something, isn't it??
Ma Kettle>
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Author: johng ★2017
Date: 2014-07-08 07:53
I have been using one for about a month, so it is a bit premature to give you any long term experience with the ReedJuvinate. What you get is a solid feeling plastic container with a positive seal with a rubber o-ring, a place for three reeds that holds them gently and keeps them flat, and a simple triangular sponge that goes in the middle of the three reeds....it does not touch them. They have also started to put a decent magnet on the outside of the container so you can attach it to your stand or chair to keep it handy. It will handle various sizes of single reeds, including bari sax and bass clarinet reeds.
The idea is to soak the reeds for a short time in Original Listerine in the case along with the sponge and then pour it out and remove some of it from the sponge so it stays moist. Using Listerine, which contains about 27% alcohol, keeps mold from forming on the reeds. My reeds have stayed quite clean.
Having a couple of concerts this month I took a big breath and put my 3 best reeds in. I have not detected any deterioration in their playing and since they do not sit in the liquid but are held in the container with the moist sponge, they have not become water logged. As their advertising says, the reeds are immediately ready to play, although that has not been a big issue for me before, but it is a nice feature.
Since using it for only one month, I can't say if a reed's life is extended as their ads say. That remains to be seen. All in all, I am glad I got one of them and am thinking of getting another so I can keep 6 reeds going. At $20 the price isn't hard to take. The Listerine has a taste to it, but not overly so. I did have some discomfort on my lower lip for a minute or two until I learned to first put the reed in my mouth as usual to get the major part of the Listerine off. (I am not connected to the seller of Reedjuvinate in any way)
John Gibson, Founder of JB Linear Music, www.music4woodwinds.com
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Author: Claire Annette
Date: 2014-07-08 17:43
John, thank you for that feedback. Even though you've had the product for a brief time, it is still good to read about your experience thus far. Please update us in a month or two.
I really am tempted just to go ahead and order one and try it out. If it turns out to be a decent product, it might be one I'd recommend to my students.
David, we also had a smoking section at our school. Students whose parents signed a permission slip could smoke, chew, and spit to their hearts' content in one designated area. (This was in a state with a high yield of tobacco crops.)
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