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Author: Orlando Natty
Date: 2013-11-21 13:47
I've wanted a crystal mouthpiece for years. I was always intrigued by their look and what one might sound like. I just purchased a vintage Selmer (O'Brien 5) crystal mouthpiece and figured I'd report my impressions in case any other amateurs are as curious as I was.
I played it for the first time last night and it was night and day compared to my regular mouthpieces (Vandoren M30 profile 88 and B45). It is so easy blowing and projects very well. I know some jazz players prefer them for their carrying power and now I know why. I felt like I could wake the neighbors when I put some air behind it!
It felt like I could effortlessly play higher notes without any squeaking or "popping" out uncontrolably. Although it is not too resistant it also isn't too open. It has a good balance of projection and flexibility.
The only issue is that it can be a bit sharp sounding. Not sharp as in out of tune but the sound could be quite piercing and I would have to dial back my air flow in some instances.
I can't wait to try it at my community orchestra practice. It might project a bit too much for that setting but it will be fun to see the reactions on my section mates faces when I pull that sucker out! Overall I'm glad I finally bought one and will enjoy having it in my collection.
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Author: BobD
Date: 2013-11-21 13:51
Probably a different lay/tip opening from what you have been using.
Bob Draznik
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Author: kdk
Date: 2013-11-21 15:06
This is an interesting read, and I certainly won't quarrel with anything you've said - I haven't played on an O'Brien since I was a teenager and at the time wouldn't have known the difference between a #5 and a #15 (and the mouthpiece was in pieces only weeks later when I picked up my unlatched clarinet case to move it and dumped everything, including the mouthpiece, on the floor ).
Lots of players use crystal mouthpieces successfully and happily.
But I want to make one objection to your post and others about mouthpieces that come up often on the BB. If you're testing a mouthpiece or practicing on it in a normal-sized room at home - a practice studio, a living room, a den - and you're playing by yourself and not as part of an ensemble of any kind, you really can't talk meaningfully about "projection." You have no where to project *to* and nothing to project *over*. Projection is really hard for the player to judge for himself, anyway, because it describes the way the sound reaches a listener who is substantially distant from the player and usually implies an ability to "project over" (or "cut through") an accompanying texture.
Loudness at the player's ear is not a reliable way to gauge projection. So, whatever it is you (and others who write about their reactions to mouthpieces) are describing may well be an important quality in the sound, but unless you've played it in a reasonably-sized hall with someone listening at the point farthest away from you, I don't think it can fairly be called "projection."
Karl
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2013-11-21 17:09
If you have any experience whatsoever, you know what you sound like in one context vs. another. Projection IS projection whether it be at Orchestra Hall or your bathroom.
...................Paul Aviles
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Author: kdk
Date: 2013-11-21 17:32
If that were the case, there are several very prominent and excellent clarinet players performing today who might choose slightly (or not so slightly) different sound qualities if they could ever sit in a hall and hear themselves play.
Karl
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2013-11-21 19:01
What ligature are you using? If you want to dampen the high frequencies a tiny bit, and ensure no slippage, Rovners work very well with crystal mouthpieces.
I'm a big fan of crystals, use them on Eb, Bb and A soprano clarinets, bass clarinet, and alto and tenor saxes (for classical/legit work).
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Author: Jeroen
Date: 2013-11-29 07:59
I also am a fan of crystal mpc's and I think they do project very well, from nearby (microphone) up to large concert halls and even outdoor.
I use an old Buffet 5 as my main jazz mpc but also for classical solo playing (have played the Mozart Concerto Adagio recently on it).
There are a lot of crystals out there but quality of facing can be disappointing.
Always try before you buy. And they can feel stuffy, playing softer reeds help.
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2013-11-29 22:01
>> (for classical/legit work)
I always imagine your folks jammin' in a slammer after being caught for performing illicit or borderline frivolous licks...
Frankly...the "legit" term doesn't exist here in a musical context. You 'mericans stricter than us kinky 'peans?
--
Ben
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2013-11-30 02:43
For you uncultured furriners:
"Legit" work = classical, theatre (pit), church music, and such where typically notes are not bent, wild vibrato and rips are VERBOTEN, and attire is usually suit & tie or tuxedo. Precise control and tight embouchures are the order of the day.
"Jazz" = anything else. All manner of screaming, honking, wailing and swooping noises are permitted, any sort of vibrato is allowed, and there are no rules of attire (although some sort of clothing is recommended, for sanitary reasons). Loose, floppy embouchures, wide tip openings and #2 Rico reeds are commonly seen.
Gee willikers, do I have to explain EVERYTHING to you Swiss?
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Author: Krommer
Date: 2013-11-30 02:55
I used a crystal Obrian when I was in a Navy band. I really enjoyed it. When I started lessons in college that was out in favor of a Selmer B star. The crystal-an open lay, the Selmer-a long narrow lay.
I gave it to my sister who broke it...
I play an adjusted Selmer Tenor now & use the most fantastic mouthpiece-a metal JODY JAZZ #7.
I was playing in a concert band & the director was constantly telling me I was too loud & asking me to get a hard rubber or plastic mouthpiece. I quit soon after.
I say this to predict that your sound will overpower the orchestra.
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Author: Mike Blinn
Date: 2013-11-30 15:57
Hi Orlando,
Sometime in life, one has to take a chance and go against established practice, such as never buy without trying first!
But a few years back, on that site called eBay, I bid for a Pomarico Bass Clarinet Crystal #2 and purchased it for $85 . The seller was from Italy, and the mouthpiece new and worth at least twice the price. I've played it for years now, and never regreted buying it without trying it.
It's a gamble, of course, and sometimes you lose, but sometimes you win!
Mike Blinn
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