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 Emulating the noise/artefacts from clarinets and other woodwind instruments
Author: motown83 
Date:   2013-11-12 21:28

Hi,

Does anyone know of ways to digitally emulate the noise/artifacts from various woodwind instruments?

Thanks.



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 Re: Emulating the noise/artefacts from clarinets and other woodwind instruments
Author: Ken Shaw 2017
Date:   2013-11-12 21:48

No electronic system can yet reproduce the transients and the instrument's characteristic way of moving from one note to the next. Still less can electronics match the characteristic tone colors that vary from note to note, or the way various intervals are bound together.

You may just have to hire live players.

Ken Shaw

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 Re: Emulating the noise/artefacts from clarinets and other woodwind instruments
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2013-11-12 22:38

You can always sample real ones but it still won't be the same as real ones being played by real people.

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: Emulating the noise/artefacts from clarinets and other woodwind instruments
Author: FDF 
Date:   2013-11-12 23:22

As you probably know, a synthesizer is the best way to imitate the sound of a woodwind. Imitation will always be just that, imitation. However, consider your audience. Will they be able to ascertain the difference? Go from there to find the digital difference you are looking for.



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 Re: Emulating the noise/artefacts from clarinets and other woodwind instruments
Author: motown83 
Date:   2013-11-12 23:35

Greetings gentlemen!

Note that I'm not looking to emulate the instruments themselves, but rather the noise/artifacts that are sometimes heard when musicians get sloppy. Or maybe too excited? I find these noises/artifacts comforting, kinda like vinyl crackles.

Ken Shaw: These guys have come a long way though:

http://www.samplemodeling.com/en/products_clarinets.php

Thanks.

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 Re: Emulating the noise/artefacts from clarinets and other woodwind instruments
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2013-11-13 01:26

Pad slap and keywork noise should be easy enough to copy.

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: Emulating the noise/artefacts from clarinets and other woodwind instruments
Author: Tony F 
Date:   2013-11-13 03:25

A 10 minute sampling of any of my practice sessions would give you enough sloppy keywork and strange sounds to work with for years.

Tony F.

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 Re: Emulating the noise/artefacts from clarinets and other woodwind instruments
Author: FDF 
Date:   2013-11-13 22:48

motown, oh, i get it, you are trying to sell something.
Nah, no thanks.



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 Re: Emulating the noise/artefacts from clarinets and other woodwind instruments
Author: motown83 
Date:   2013-11-14 00:24

That's preposterous. Might as well claim Ken Shaw is trying to get us to hire his band of live players.

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 Re: Emulating the noise/artefacts from clarinets and other woodwind instruments
Author: Ken Shaw 2017
Date:   2013-11-14 03:49

I am, I am.

Ken Shaw

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 Re: Emulating the noise/artefacts from clarinets and other woodwind instruments
Author: clarnibass 
Date:   2013-11-14 06:02

I have a few friends studying electronic music. That is in the sense of trying to create sounds (and music), not just use eletronic instruments, etc. They often make the "brains" of software etc.

From what I understand they can basically create any sound. A lot of their studies are math and physics and not just music. But I imagine it would take far longer to do this so is not really worth it? I guess they could have a recording of any sound, analyze it and then able to recreate it synthetically.

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