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Author: MGT91123
Date: 2013-10-08 23:39
Hi,
So my mom was at the music store getting reeds for me and the clerk talked to her about the Rico Reserve Mouthpiece.{This clerk heard me play test my new clarinet about six months ago and knows my preference because my instructor uses the store and talks about me.} Compared to the 5RV Lyre I use now, what are differences and similarities? I know what you will all say, try before I buy, which I plan to do this weekend. I like what I have now, but would like to try this.
My background on clarinet is that I take private lessons for three ears and counting, and am in my local youth orchestra, and I also wonder, can you switch back and forth between mouthpieces?
Any info would be appreciated.
MG
Buffet E-11
Buffet Moening Barrel, 65 mm, Backun Protege 65mm
Vadoren BD5 Mouthpiece
Vandoren M/O series gold Lig.
Gonzala's FOF Reeds 2.5
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Author: kdk
Date: 2013-10-09 00:16
It depends on which of the Rico facings you try. 5RV Lyre is about comparable in tip opening to the Rico X10 (5RVL=1.09mm, X10=1.10mm) and probably about the same length, so if you want to try a Rico Reserve that's similar to your 5RV Lyre, start with the X10. The other models are closer-tipped - X5 is 1.05mm and the X0 is 1mm. My feeling in comparing the closer tipped Vandorens with the X0 that I've been using for awhile is that there's a little more resistance being generated somewhere in the interior of the Rico, giving me a little more push-back than I get from a Vandoren, and that I hear a little more color in the Rico.
It's good that you plan to try the mouthpiece at the store.
It would be even better if the store owner would let you take a couple of the Ricos home with you as trials so you could play them in more familiar acoustical surroundings. It would let you compare the mouthpieces to what you've been playing more realistically than playing them in whatever room the store has available.
Second best would be to make sure the mouthpiece is returnable in undamaged condition within a reasonable time (a week or so) in case you find out once you get it home or to rehearsals that you prefer your 5RVL after all.
Karl
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2013-10-09 01:02
To prevent tooth marks on the top, you should play double lip or put a removable pad on the top, particularly if you take several mouthpieces home.
Ken Shaw
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Author: ruben
Date: 2013-10-09 09:07
Personally, I found that my high register didn't come out well with the Rico mouthpiece. I would pay a little more and get a handcrafted mouthpiece; my favorites being Lomax and Clark Fobes. Actually, I find it easier to switch clarinets than to switch from one mouthpiece to another. Once I've decided on a mouthpiece, I pretty well stick to it for at least a few years.
rubengreenbergparisfrance@gmail.com
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Author: Tony F
Date: 2013-10-09 10:09
I bought a Rico Reserve in the close facing. It plays well, but was too resistant for me. On a suggestion from someone on this bb I thinned the tip rail by 50%, which reduced the resistance to an acceptable level. It plays well, I keep it as a spare.
Tony F.
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Author: NBeaty
Date: 2013-10-09 16:48
I don't think you can directly compare the 5RV Lyre to the X10 Rico. The design of each is otherwise quite different as well as the material. The X5 is probably closer in feel to the 5RV Lyre.
So far, I know many more people playing the X0 than the other two models. As David pointed out his Vandoren preferences (M13, M15), I agree that this is a direction you should explore. Sound production\overall response is quicker, less resistance, more stable, etc.
I think you can do a lot better than La Voz reeds. Changing to vandorens (Blue Box or V12) or Rico GCS Evolutions\Red Box\Purple Box would allow you to find a much better sound. All of these reeds are in a different league than La Voz.
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Author: MGT91123
Date: 2013-10-09 20:37
NBeaty,
I've already tried Vandorens and hate them My sound is hard to produce, stuffy and hard. GCS Evolution produce an airy and shrill sound for me. My last attempt, Rico Reserve Classic sounded full but I had push way too hard to produce any sound at all. Most of all, any of these reeds were not consistent and I spent many precious practice sessions sorting good from bad. La Voz are consistent and my sound is good and bright. All this is just my preference, of course, and you are welcome to yours.
"I think you can do a lot better than La Voz reeds." "All of these reeds are in a different league than La Voz.'
While this may true, La Voz are affordable for me, and I'm in the 'league' that I'm proud of. But I'm always striving for better. Sorry about the rant, but I felt I needed to clarify.
MG
Buffet E-11
Buffet Moening Barrel, 65 mm, Backun Protege 65mm
Vadoren BD5 Mouthpiece
Vandoren M/O series gold Lig.
Gonzala's FOF Reeds 2.5
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Author: Ed
Date: 2013-10-09 22:17
It sounds as if perhaps some of the reeds you tried were not the right strength for you.
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Author: Sylvain
Date: 2013-10-09 22:35
I have a Rico Reserve X0 mouthpiece and played it for a while.
I really liked the initial feel and sound (round and warm), but quickly found myself looking for more flexibility and a little more brightness.
As NBeaty suggested I woudl recommnd the x5 as the closest in feel to your 5RV Lyre.
Based on my experience, you might find the X5 to be rounder, darker, warmer, and more consistent in response over the full range of the clarinet than your 5RV Lyre.
On the other hand, it may feel less flexible, and with less "core" to the sound.
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Sylvain Bouix <sbouix@gmail.com>
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Author: Vova Doob(UA)
Date: 2013-10-10 16:20
Dear MGT91123,
I have some info for you!
I`ve never tried Rico Reserve mouthpieces, but I`ve played on Vandoren 5RV Lyre more than 6 years. And in my opinion it`s one ofthe best mouthpieces in it`s price. I palyed on Buffet E-11 and 5RV Lyre in college and University. And this combination is good enough to produce good sound. If you want to upgrade your mouthpiece and wait from it better differense, you need to try more expensive mouthpieces for example Clark Fobes or Backun, yes, they cost more, but you`ll understand why their prices so high.
To feel all possibilites of mouthpiece, you need to play it for few weeks, twenty minutes of trying in store willn`t say you nothing. As for your age in clarinet, possibly you are to young to choose mouthpieces yourself, and you may do worst to your embouchure if something will be wrong. (It`s only my advice)
As for reeds, La Voz are great for this mouthpiece, but their life aren`t long, if you don`t like Vandoren, try Rico reserve 3 and Australia Vintage 3 (if you can find last one) Rico Reserve must be good for you, but if you don`t like hard reeds, use LA Voz, or try Rico reserve 2,5.
Here is two examples of sound that can be produced with combination Buffet E-11 and 5RV Lyre mtp. (also Vandoren classic reeds #3 and Optimum lig.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiogHCZk8DY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC_kzrt2ETU
Advice: If you find better changes, try Clark Fobes Europa #5 It`s my mtp now, difference is GREAT, you don`t need to change strength of reeds and so on.... it`s cost app 225$ but for it`s price it`s realy gooooood! Material is hard rubber and it`s hand finished.
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