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Author: Roxann
Date: 2013-10-06 01:43
The New Horizons band that I play with has "inherited" several sets of music from now defunct bands. We were given the music for National Glory Overture by K L King. It is missing the conductor's score and the French Horn music. Short of buying a complete set of music for all instruments for $50 (we have no budget for purchasing music), does anybody know how I might go about tracking down the two parts that we're missing? I've done a google search but without success. Thanks you, as always;)
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2013-10-06 03:28
Contact the publisher http://www.barnhouse.com/product.php?id=014-0103-00AR and ask for permission to copy the parts. Then go to one of the bands with large libraries -- say, the Marine Band.
National Glory was part of The Inspiration Band Book collection http://karlking.us/books.htm. Try Googling that.
It appears that there was no conductor's score. The conductor worked from the 1st trumpet part.
The horn parts are probably duplicated in the baritone, alto clarinet and bassoon parts.
Ken Shaw
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Author: davyd
Date: 2013-10-06 13:10
As a concert band librarian, I can relate to where you're coming from.
A part marked "Eb Alto" is for a French horn: in Eb, rather than in F. Your players will have to transpose down a whole step (possibly not all of them can do that), or someone will have to write out transpositions. It's likely that F horn parts were not published.
You might also be lacking a C Flute/Piccolo part. The part that's marked 'Piccolo' may well be in Db transposition, a half step lower than concert pitch. Check the key signatures to find out. If that's the case, someone's definitely got some writing to do, as flute players normally don't transpose.
The lack of a score is also normal. The Solo Cornet part probably has cues for other instruments, so it can function as a 1-line conductor score, but that makes it hard for the actual player to read.
You might have a part marked "Bb Bass" with a treble clef symbol, in treble clef. That's what you give to Bass Clarinet, and to Bb Contrabass Clarinet and Bass Sax if you have them.
These are all common problems will older editions of concert band material. If you don't have the budget to buy a modern edition, or if one doesn't exist, you may decide it's not worth it to try to play these old pieces.
Post Edited (2013-10-06 18:27)
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Author: rtmyth
Date: 2013-10-06 13:59
The Allentown Band has scores for about 5000 compositions of band music. They have a web site.
richard smith
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Author: Roxann
Date: 2013-10-06 17:33
In looking at the music, I see that Piccolo IS in Db. I also see that there are quite a few que's on the Solo Cornet part. And there are even T-Bone treble cleff parts...I've never seen that before. I will google the Allentown Band and keep my fingers crossed. Thanks for all your suggestions. I did find the Inspiration Band Book options at a website, but nothing for conductor. Can't remember if there was a FH part or not. Is it OK to copy the parts that I already have so each flute player, for example, has their own music? I assume, Ken, that I need to get permission to have another band copy their music to share with me...am I reading that correctly? THANKS!
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2013-10-06 19:48
Roxann -
The music is still under copyright, so strictly speaking you'll need permission from the publisher (probably at a fee). If the publisher doesn't have the individual parts available, get permission to copy existing parts. Show the permission document to the librarian of the group that has the parts and offer to pay the costs of copying and postage (or scanning and e-mailing).
As a practical matter, you can skip the above. No one will come after you for copying two horn parts for a set you already own.
When I was in high school, the band owned the Hippodrome and Trouper's Favorite books, which we played from. If your city has (or used to have) a big high school band, they may well have the Inspiration books in their library. A retired band director may know.
Does anyone know of a site that stocks old band music that schools have pitched? Google "Music Exchange" and get in touch with the sites that stock used sheet music. They'll be a knowledgeable source.
Also Google for band music lending library -chatfield. (Chatfield is brass band only).
Have you checked with the source from which you inherited the set you have? They may have another set or know where to find one.
The Library of Congress may have a set. Also check the NYC Public Library Music Division.
Ken Shaw
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Author: Roxann
Date: 2013-10-06 20:26
The director of our band just happens to be my high school band director...from 45 years ago! I'll put a bug in his ear and see if he can come up with some ideas as well.
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Author: Roxann
Date: 2013-10-07 15:22
I've spoken with our French Horn player and he told me it's not that big of a deal to transpose from the Eb to the F horn so The Inspiration Band Book will most likely be the solution to this problem. OR to use the Eb Alto Sax parts and modify them a bit. Believe it or not, with 5000 titles in Allentown's library, this particular piece is not one of them. Maybe, when our band is 150 years old (rather than 5), we'll have the wealth of music that they have. Very impressive. Haven't received a reply from Barnhouse re. copying the pieces if I can ever track them down...but it's still early on Monday.
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