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 More Ligature
Author: jerry 
Date:   2001-03-27 22:45

All the talk about ligatures reminded me to try the *used* one that came with my used Vito. I bought my Clark Fobes Debut MP & L5 Rovner lig before I got the clarinet and never bothered try the used lig.

So, I just put the *used* lig on my CF mouth piece and what a diference - even I can tell. I don't know what kind of lig it is but it is metal and is labeled FRANCE. It looks similar to the one I seen in the Muncy Winds catalog under Buffet.

I don't know the physics behind it (and it realy doesn't matter) but it seems easier to control the sound (the best way I can describe it - sound just seems to *flow* right out without as much effort as before). The sound seems be louder also - not *dampened*. Does any of this make since or am I just *reading* into it something that isn't there?

Oh well, it seems to work for me for now.

~ jerry

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 RE: More Ligature
Author: jerry 
Date:   2001-03-27 22:52

OH! Also, the thumb screws are on the left side. I'm sure I have it on correctly because one end seems to be a a larger opening than the other. Unless, the previous owner had it on wrong and it retained it's shape - hummmm!

~ jerry

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 RE: More Ligature
Author: Ken Shaw 
Date:   2001-03-27 23:00

For me, the lighter the ligature the better. I use a Martin, reshaped by Kalmen Opperman so it doesn't bind the sides. String is better than anything, despite the inconvenience and the nasty looks from band directors.

Ken Shaw

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 RE: More Ligature
Author: jerry 
Date:   2001-03-27 23:12

"String is better than anything, despite the inconvenience and the nasty looks from band directors."

Don't have a band director nor do I care what he/she might think. I have been intending to try the shoestring method described by David Pinot. However, as you say, it might be a little inconvenient if in a hurry.

~ jerry

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 RE: More Ligature
Author: Dee 
Date:   2001-03-27 23:43

jerry wrote:
>
> OH! Also, the thumb screws are on the left side. I'm sure
> I have it on correctly because one end seems to be a a larger
> opening than the other. Unless, the previous owner had it on
> wrong and it retained it's shape - hummmm!
>
> ~ jerry

The large opening should indeed go down but perhaps the ligature is supposed to be rotated around the mouthpiece. It is *extremely* rare for the screw heads to be on the left. The "standard" metal ligature has the screws on the same side of the mouthpiece as the reed.

By putting the large end down and orienting the screws so the heads are on the right, you can tell if a ligature is a "standard" design (i.e. screws on the reed side) or an "inverted" design (i.e. screws not on the reed side).

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 RE: More Ligature
Author: jerry 
Date:   2001-03-28 00:15

DEE

" By putting the large end down and orienting the screws so the heads are on the right, you can tell if a ligature is a "standard" design (i.e. screws on the reed side) or an "inverted" design (i.e. screws not on the reed side)."

Thanks. I had the screws on the top side like the Revnor. I rotated it so that the screws arenow on the reed side and adjustment is with the right hand while facing the reed. That means that it is opposite of my Revnor because it has only one screw and it adjusts from the right side while the screw is on the upper (lip) side (according to Revnor's instructions).

It still sounds better than the Revnor - it might be what everyone calls "brighter" (I still don't know the relationship of all these terms.

~ jerry

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 RE: More Ligature
Author: Phil 
Date:   2001-03-28 00:59

I've found a use for some of those metal ligeatures that come with many horns, you know the metal ones with two small screws that some beginning persons use and the ones that come with new mouthpieces in student instruments. HOSE CLAMPS are the answer. Theyre cheap, you're going to throw them away anyway, so why not get some use out of them.......

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 RE: More Ligature
Author: Hiroshi 
Date:   2001-03-28 04:03

I guess you found how Rovner(inverted+vibration hindering) are different from
ordinary type metal ligature.

However, Buffet ligature is a junk IMHO. They do not know how to make mouthpiece and ligature(Selmer does). If you try other traditional type
(non-inverted) ligarure such as Bonade, you will be astonished again.

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