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Author: Brian Peterson
Date: 2013-07-18 16:18
Am contemplating auditioning for the 3rd Cl/Bass Clarinet spot in a local community orchestra but am a bit perplexed by something on the audition list they've provided. One of the selections is noted thusly, "Berlioz, Symphonie Fantastique, 5th movement, second clarinet".
Before I potentially make an ass out of myself with the selection committee, I thought I'd put it to you all first. Would you take that to mean the big Eb solo rather than the 2nd part, which I don't recall being anything particularly difficult or audition worthy?
Thanks.
Brian
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Author: cigleris
Date: 2013-07-18 17:06
The second part has some pretty tricky stuff on C clarinet including a solo. It is usually asked at auditions to test the players transposition and for principal auditions because usually the Eb player will play the 1st part having played 2nd for the rest of the Symphony while the principal plays the 2nd part. It's not always the case but in the big symphony orchestras this is what happens.
Peter Cigleris
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Author: rmk54
Date: 2013-07-18 18:01
The E-flat part is in Clarinet 1.
Maybe they want to see if you can handle C transposition. As cigleris has already pointed out, this part has some fairly tricky spots.
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Author: kdk
Date: 2013-07-18 19:10
So, if they're really looking for transposing skills, would it be cheating to go into the audition with a C clarinet?
Karl
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2013-07-18 19:49
Oh, and the first appearance of that Eb theme IS the second clarinet.
.............Paul Aviles
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2013-07-18 20:05
The Eb solo is anticipated in a short solo for 2nd clarinet in C. The transposition is trivially easy on Bb, but that's not the end of it. Played on C clarinet, the solo has the same sequence of tone colors as the Eb solo. Transposed on the Bb, the match is lost.
When we discussed the solo a few years back, Greg Smith of the Chicago Symphony wrote that they always use a C clarinet at that spot.
Ken Shaw
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2013-07-18 22:31
So many players today have a transposed part that they bring with them. It used to be that they would give a C part to see if the player is prepared to transpose but now when that excerpt is given it's because there's some pretty tricky stuff in there. Besides the little solo in the beginning of the mov't there's all those trills and triplets at great neck speed. Good luck with it. I learned it in school as a C part, I learned to transpose.
ESP eddiesclarinet.com
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Author: Dileep Gangolli
Date: 2013-07-20 00:30
This is a very famous second clarinet excerpt used at professional auditions. Actually I am quite amazed that it would be used at an audition for a small , community orchestra because of how hard it is.
In order to execute it correctly one must:
>Transpose correctly
> play with the proper articulartion
> have good rhythm
> have a soft dynamic range
> have excellent technique esp in the left hand
Other than that, its quite easy!
Most clarinetists do not have a GOOD C clarinet. If they have a C clarinet it is often not well adjusted and out of tune. And one can argue that this excerpt actually could have been scored for the Bb.
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Author: Brian Peterson
Date: 2013-07-22 00:04
Yeah it does seem kinda strange. I'm pretty sure they're not expecting it to be played on C, but I actually could borrow a really good one from my teacher and blow em away, LOL!
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Author: Brian Peterson
Date: 2013-07-22 00:06
BTW, I've pretty much been able to snag all the exerpts from past audition music posted online. Had a hard time finding this one. Can always break down and buy the Orchestral Musician CD 1, but if I can save the $20 bucks that'd be great. Any suggestions?
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Author: Paula S
Date: 2013-07-22 08:11
Oooooooooooh thanks for that KDK. I have just bought a fully restored Cousenon C which has a lovely tone and great intonation for a C;-). Yes, I know........ my GAS is getting the better of me.
I have got the Eefer part in the Hadcock but it will be nice to have a go at all the other parts! :-)
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