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Author: Erica
Date: 2001-03-26 00:21
Aloha!
Today rocks! I got two (count 'em, 2) new-to-me clarinets today!! A Buffet R13 Bb and an A. They're awesome! But I've got a problem. They both were refurbished a while back by the guy I bought them from, and they came with a double case. The way the case is designed is so that the lower joint and bell are put together in there. I can't get the two pieces apart! The cork hadn't been greased before putting them together and now it's stuck. I don't want to bend the keys or anything trying to get them apart. Can anyone offer any advise on how to get them apart with out damaging anything?
Please help!
Thanks!
Erica
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Author: Melanie
Date: 2001-03-26 00:38
Erica,
I, too, had that problem when I got my Vintage ... it comes in a pouchette case where the lower joint and bell stay together. At the advice of several band directors, we gently, gently rocked the lower joint and bell back and forth to break the seal. Once we got them apart, I greased it like you wouldn't believe and put them back together. I separate them every few weeks to make sure they aren't stuck. Beware of doing this -- you don't want to harm your tenon! Another option may be to way for it to cool down somewhere and for the wood to constrict slightly, but that may not be viable. Talk to a band director or instrument repairperson about their suggestions for this.
Melanie
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Author: Aaron
Date: 2001-03-26 04:54
Rocking the joint back and forth and with great patenience is the key. No need to rush through it. Also maybe sanding the kork a little before you grease and put the belll back on could help. Also work the bell on and off everytime you play the horn, which i'm assuming IS everyday. So everyday givethe bell a turn or take it off and plae it back on.
Another more expensive option is to buy a new case that allows you to leave the bell off of the horn during storage so that situation won't occour. Again, the Buffet double cases and the Pouchette cases are nice, however the drawback is the fact that the bell mu stay on the horn. A good case is the Orly case. It's sturdy and supports the horn by the tenons and keeps the horn in place very well. The proTech is another deefinately cheaper option.
Aaron
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Author: L. Omar Henderson
Date: 2001-03-26 13:30
Dear Erica,
I too had the same problem with my Vintage. An old and sage repair person said that it was not a good idea to keep the bell attached all the time because over time the cork, remaining compressed, would make for a loose fit - I know this is different than the tight fit problem now. His suggestion - buy a nice single case and keep the horn and bell detached. If one must travel around with a double case, be sure that you use the slickest cork treatment available - my suggestion one of the synthetics - which will remain slippery enough to dissesemble the horn until the cork becomes used to its compressed state. The Alisyn synthetic or my Doctor's Product's synthetic may be good choices but the single case is the answer!
The Doctor
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Author: Ken Shaw
Date: 2001-03-26 18:08
The Buffet pochette cases are usually long enough to let you keep the bell halfway off the lower joint. That's the way the old guys did it. The really old cases made you keep the barrel on the upper joint, too.
The old cases have a wood frame under the felt. Lift up the felt and carve some of the wood out to give enough space.
Cases come up cheap on eBay all the time. The ProTec is not too expensive new and is well made.
Best regards.
Ken Shaw
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Author: Erica
Date: 2001-03-26 22:37
Through carefull manuvering, my band director was able to successfully remove the two pieces! Woohoo! Thanks to you all for the advise and suggestions! I think I'm going to get a single case, which is more logical than anything else at this point.
Thanks again all!
Erica
P.S. I get to go play my new instrument at band practice in 2 hrs! WOOHOO! <|;o)
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Author: john cole
Date: 2001-04-23 04:46
Years ago my Buffet barrel stuck on the upper joint (brand -new clarinet). I had to break out the case partition to put it away. I didn't play next summer and it dried out enough to come apart. I sanded the wood a little. It has been okay for 50 years.
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