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Author: Shelley
Date: 2001-03-24 17:19
I am looking to buy a Buffet and Crampon R-13.
Unfortunately I am on a budget and I need to find a steal. I wouldn't mind buying one at a Pawn shop and having it overhauled.
I have been looking on EBay and some times they have an instrument but they do not say what model the instrument is--ie R13 E13 E11 etc. My question is how can you tell? By serial # tone holes, etc?
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Author: Lindsay
Date: 2001-03-24 21:26
Hi Shelley--
I'm a LeBlanc person myself, but I know several friends with Buffet horns. In my experience, I've usually seen the E-11's and E-13's actually stamped with their model # (E-11/E-13) on the top joint, right under the Buffet logo. However, I'm sure that this method isn't foolproof, so see if you can't negotiate with the seller to try out the horn for a week or so before buying, and have a repair tech check it out for you. Or, just email the seller and see if they'll give you some more info.
Hope that helps some!
Good clarineting,
Lindsay Mitchell
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Author: Anji
Date: 2001-03-24 22:48
Get ahold of John Butler or Dave Speigelthal, on these pages. They restore instruments and do creditable work.
Brenda Seiwert has really good stuff, too.
Drop me a note off-line and I can point you toward some other possible sources.
Me, I play a 1962 Master Model, which has most all or the mechanical features of the R13 and plays VERY closely in character (I finally did a side-by-side comparison).
anji
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Author: Mike Irish
Date: 2001-03-24 23:09
something I do is keep in touch with the music shops, if one is not in the area, you might let the owner / sales persons know what your price range is and what you are looking for. you will be surprised at how helpful they might be....
A year and half ago, I was looking for an Oboe, and managed to pick up one for 900.00 , yes it was used, but no cracks, pins, and had just been overhauled, single owner. the book price for that horn was near 5000.
I am currently working on a deal for a saprano sax for my son. it looks good right now I may be able to get one for about 1000......
The shop I deal with, knows me, and I am currently spending several hundred a year on music, reeds, cleaning supplys, so forth and so one.....
we have a piano, flute, oboe, 2 clarinets ( kept in top playing condition ) , 2 clarinets ( awaiting parts one being a regents metal, and the other is alberts system ) , alto sax, a fender guitar, the shop has standing order for the parts, and if I need something, they order it ..... also have a bit of priority on repairs ( speed ) when I need it..... a good repore goes a long ways.... loyalty to the shop helps too, the quality of the work they have done for me has been exceptional...
good luck on your search.....
Mike
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Author: benny
Date: 2001-03-25 22:15
to my knowledge...the r-13 is the only buffet that has the logo on the bottom joint.
look underneath the keywork. if the horn has the logo on all pieces it's probably an r-13...
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Author: David Kinder
Date: 2001-03-28 00:04
I found my R-13 by calling pawn shops on the phone. Although these aren't fool-proof questions, they worked for me:
Ask if they have any wood clarinets?
What brands?
IF Buffet, is there a model number? (If not, it's most likely an R-13)
What color case is it in? (many r-13's are in brown cases, but not always)
Is there a logo on the bell, lower joint, upper joint and barrel?
Ask how much. You've most likely got an R-13
When you see it, double check for those things and look at the lower joint B natural trill key between the fingers. Does it curve? If not, check the serial number and write it down. Check it with the other pages on this site.
Do play test it. Remember that bore oil does wonders, as well as a full and complete overhaul. You can have a great horn for an additional $250 for the overhaul! Have fun in your search!
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