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Author: Tobin
Date: 2013-06-06 23:38
Hi everyone,
I was invited to play through a local high school's collection of clarinets in all varieties. Here's the list of notable instruments:
Leblanc Paris Eb clarinet, two alto clarinets, two bass clarinets, one paperclip contrabass.
Marigaux Paris bass clarinet.
Penzler Mueller Artiste bass clarinet & "USAF" "Brilliante" Eb clarinet.
Evette Master Model Bb clarinet and...of course...a Golden Age 1967 R13 in original case.
Any thoughts on some of the unusual horns in the list, clarinet friends?
Thanks!
James
(yup -- searched the archive. Some info, but nothing on point)
Gnothi Seauton
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2013-06-07 01:48
James -
I played a Leblanc LL Eb in the U. of Tennessee Band and the Knoxville Symphony in the 1968/69 season. It was WAY sharp. I've written about how I fitted garden hose washers in the top and bottom top sockets of the barrel, which made it close enough that I could adjust. http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=181221&t=181043
I don't remember what mouthpiece I used -- probably the stock Leblanc or maybe a Selmer B*.
Ken Shaw
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Author: Tobin
Date: 2013-06-07 13:17
Thanks Ken -- the pitch on this one wasn't that bad.
Does anyone have any experience with the Penzel-Mueller bass or Eb?
Or the Marigaux bass clarinet?
Thanks!
James
Gnothi Seauton
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Author: Garth Libre
Date: 2013-06-07 15:43
Are garden hose washers a near identical fit for the bore size of clarinet barrels? If that's the case, why don't we use garden hose washers which I imagine would be perfectly easy to sand down to any thickness for even a minor pitch correction? I only need 1/2 mm spacer to be in tune when I'm warm. I believe it would be easy to sand down a garden hose to that size and it would economical too.
Garth, 305-981-4705. garthlibre@yahoo.com
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2013-06-08 00:36
The King Marigaux and Penzel-Mueller bass clarinets are both, unfortunately, Robert Malerne-made stencils. So they are average players with very soft keywork. Basically play like Vitos or Noblets but without the sturdiness and reliability of the Leblanc products.
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2013-06-08 01:28
Garth -
The washers do not match. You really don't want them to. Instead, you get them with an outside diameter larger than than the socket and an inside diameter smaller than the bore. Then you sand the outside and the inside of the washer to fit the socket and bore. I began with, I think, 280 or 320 grit and finished with 400. For the outside, I put the sandpaper over a sheet of glass. For the inside, I wrapped it around a round file and rolled it back and forth.
Ken Shaw
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Author: bradfordlloyd
Date: 2013-06-08 01:58
I played a Penzel Mueller Eb (Artist's Model, not Brilliante) previously and really liked its sound and intonation. Sadly, it had a very small handprint which kept me from playing it effectively....but it was a nice horn! Check, however, to see where it was made....Penzel Mueller occasionally marketed stencilled horns under their name....some from France (from Thibouville, Malerne) and others from Czech Republic (Kohlert)
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Author: donald
Date: 2013-06-08 11:27
Any interesting mouthpieces? over the years i've found some great mouthpieces in old junker clarinet cases at schools- including 2 chedevilles (one totalled, one refaceable and a good player but not awesome), Perier mouthpiece that was very very good, Sumner acousticut which played very nicely after refacing....
dn
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Author: Tobin
Date: 2013-06-08 12:57
David -- thanks for the info on the bass clarinets. Total bummer. Their sound (with what I could manage in their condition) was better than the host of selmer and vito plastic basses that they had. I also thought I'd have picked up on the soft keywork, but my touch is pretty light I guess.
Bradford -- that was my impression, but again it would need a full overhaul to really know. I'll check the country of origin when I get the chance.
Donald -- yup, as soon as I came across some interesting instruments I doubled back around to re-check mouthpieces. Aside from the George Bundy and Leblanc mouthpieces throughout, there were two HS*'s, and the Penzel-Mueller Eb mouthpiece that definitely needs a reface.
James
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