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 Ligatures
Author: jacobhardy25 
Date:   2013-05-08 05:23

I'm looking for a new ligature that adds better response and a little darker sound to my clarinet. Anybody know of good ligatures?

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 Re: Ligatures
Author: Tony F 
Date:   2013-05-08 08:59

Mouthpieces and barrels have more effect on tone than ligatures IMHO.

Tony F.

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 Re: Ligatures
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2013-05-08 10:45

I would say though that the extremes would be a very thin metal ligature (brighter) vs. a thick, solid vinyl pouch design like the Rovner. The Rovner Light is a good, inexpensive ligature for all occasions.


For a start though, you can just try releasing as much tension on your present ligature as possible. That is, just place it over the reed and barely tighten at all. This will in affect take most of the color of the ligature out of the equation.




.................Paul Aviles

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 Re: Ligatures
Author: rtmyth 
Date:   2013-05-08 14:04

Try Velcro. Make your own for small change and little labor.

richard smith

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 Re: Ligatures
Author: Taras12 
Date:   2013-05-08 15:26

Two things come to mind. The Rovner Versa allows you to modify the ligature 6 different ways. It does change the timbre and responsiveness. The other thought would be to use a string ligature. I've just learned to tie one. I'll let you know how it goes.

Tristan

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 Re: Ligatures
Author: MoonPatrol 
Date:   2013-05-08 16:06

I find the mouthpiece makes the most difference in sound followed by ligature and then the barrel. I like to keep my ligatures tight.

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 Re: Ligatures
Author: brycon 
Date:   2013-05-08 16:35

Try a büttfer. They are from Austria, but a lot of the top players here in New York are playing them. Players here simply cannot say enough great things about their büttfers: best piece of equipment they own.

They would definitely give you a dark sound. Resistance and response depends, of course.



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 Re: Ligatures
Author: curlyev 
Date:   2013-05-08 20:56

Rovner would be a good one to try. I love them, but many others don't. You will just have to try and see what is best for you.

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 Re: Ligatures
Author: Ed Palanker 
Date:   2013-05-08 22:17

Once you've found the MP and barrel you like then a ligature can make a little bit of difference, especially in response but they can make a tone a little darker or brighter. The only way you will know what works for you is to try several. Perhaps you can ask one of the major mail order shops if they would send you several on approval. I'd suggest trying several of the Rovners. You can go to his website to read about them, there very good and affordable. What plays one way for someone may not have the same effect for you.

ESP eddiesclarinet.com

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 Re: Ligatures
Author: Ken Shaw 2017
Date:   2013-05-08 23:57

brycon -

Is there a source for the Büttfer? Can you post a picture?

Ken Shaw

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 Re: Ligatures
Author: sfalexi 
Date:   2013-05-09 00:44

Quote:

Try a büttfer.



.........


Is this serious? Sounds a lot like the first line to a bit of a joke that I know of..........

Alexi

US Army Japan Band

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 Re: Ligatures
Author: Katfish 
Date:   2013-05-09 14:14

What's a henway?

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 Re: Ligatures
Author: Ken Shaw 2017
Date:   2013-05-09 16:03

katfish -

In Brooklyn at the Greenmarket, hens go anywhere from 2 way up to 6 lb. Me, I like the BIG ones. More left over for chicken salad and fewer fiddly tiny bones.

The opposite is ortolans, which are whole roasted tiny songbirds, 3/4-ounce each, captured alive, force-fed, then drowned in Armagnac. You pick one by the claws, pop it in your mouth, and chew and crunch the skeleton. Even in France, where the dish was invented, a diner drapes a giant napkin over his head to hide the process. Preparation of ortolans is now illegal, even in France, but François Mitterrand had them at the last meal before he died. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ortolan_Bunting.

Almost too disgusting to contemplate, though it's said to taste ambrosial. If I'm ever on death row, it will be my final meal too.

Ken Shaw

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 Re: Ligatures
Author: Buster 
Date:   2013-05-09 16:18

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Uju3hF11CtA

-Jason



Post Edited (2013-05-10 13:01)

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 Re: Ligatures
Author: jacobhardy25 
Date:   2013-05-09 18:45

Hey all. I just found the new Rovner Versa X ligature. any comments on this? i'm considering trying this out big time. out of all the ligatures i've found this seems like a really good idea.

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 Re: Ligatures
Author: brycon 
Date:   2013-05-09 19:04

Quote:

Is there a source for the Büttfer? Can you post a picture?


Ken, I would like for nothing more than to send you some nice pics, but alas, I think that may be a crime in my neck of the woods.



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 Re: Ligatures
Author: Buster 
Date:   2013-05-10 00:30





Post Edited (2013-05-10 13:00)

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 Re: Ligatures
Author: brycon 
Date:   2013-05-10 20:53

You are too fast with the edit-fu, Jason.

I think that two dudes one ligature is an interesting discussion, however. I lent mine to a colleague in orchestra, but it did not darken his sound as it did mine: he preferred his Rovner. Nevertheless, I think my büttfer is as fine a product as anything Rovner makes.

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 Re: Ligatures
Author: Ken Shaw 2017
Date:   2013-05-11 01:38

jacobhardy25 -

For the price of the Rovner Versa X and pocket change, you can get a Rovner Dark and a Rovner Light. That's all I've ever needed, and my reshaped $5 Martin is better than either (though not as good as string).

Ken Shaw

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 Re: Ligatures
Author: Paula S 
Date:   2013-05-11 09:35

Has anyone ever done a blind-folded testing with various ligatures? I guess the shape/feel of them might give the identity of said ligature away. I might enlist my husband to help compare the four I possess. Could be a new party game LOL. I suspect much of it might be in the mind?

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 Re: Ligatures
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2013-05-11 17:18

Paula S,


This is not a trivial point that you bring up. One's state of mind as they play IS the most important factor, is it not? Would you continue to play if Simon Rattle himself wanted you for Berlin but you couldn't stand one second of the sound you perceived coming out of your horn?


For me, if something makes you feel better about your playing, who cares what the "masked man" thinks.




....................Paul Aviles



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