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Author: john4256
Date: 2013-05-07 14:59
I have been recently watching this orchestra's TV recordings of all the Mahler Symphonies.
The principal clarinet seems to be playing on an instrument that I don't recognise. It is definitely not a German system Ohler or a Boehm system.
You can only make out the top half of the instrument as the camera only catches that part. I can only describe it as having a huge amount of 'scaffolding' around the throat area. Has anyone any idea what this could be?
Many thanks
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2013-05-07 15:10
It's a Wurlitzer reform Boehm (Model 185) - they're mostly popular in the Netherlands and are becoming more popular worldwide. They're German bore with modified Boehm system keywork, so a marriage of the two types. http://wurlitzerclarinetsamerica.com/products/clarinets.html
If I was ever in the market for a new clarinet, then these would most likely be at the top of my list.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
Post Edited (2013-05-07 15:16)
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Author: The_Clarinetist
Date: 2013-05-07 15:14
Well I haven't seen those specific recordings but I think the Dutch in general and that orchestra in particular are quite fond of the reform boehm system, ie a mix between the German and Boehm systems.
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Author: rtmyth
Date: 2013-05-07 17:46
in any case wonderful musicianship on several of their recordings I have heard, including the Rach 2 Adagio.
richard smith
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Author: ruben
Date: 2013-05-08 14:58
They have, of late, been using Leitner-Kraus clarinets (Boehm reformed). These clarinets are made near Nurenberg and are considered more reliable than Wurlitzer in terms of intonation these days.
rubengreenbergparisfrance@gmail.com
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Author: Alphie
Date: 2013-05-08 20:18
Apparently they have opened up for all systems for the next audition for principal clarinet!
Alphie
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Author: William
Date: 2013-05-08 20:45
WOW--and I thought Backun was expensive......what is a serious student clarinetist who doesn't have a steady gig supposed to do??
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Author: Dileep Gangolli
Date: 2013-05-08 22:45
@ William
Get a serious gig first. Buy the clarinets. Then audition for prin cla at the Concertgebouw.
This is not a job for a serious student. It's a job for a serious professional.
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Author: eduardo94
Date: 2013-05-09 13:20
Olivier Patey won that audition, and he uses Boehm system
Here he's using a Tosca clarinet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7HXbgBCltw
About the reform boehm clarinets, they have a very nice sound quality.
But I know a clarinetist that has one and he changed to Buffet Prestige clarinet, he said to me the Buffet one has a easier intonation.
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Author: ruben
Date: 2013-05-09 14:18
Globalisation has reached the Concertgebouw! The first clarinettist is now French, the first flautist German, the first bassoonist, Venezuelan and the first oboist Russian.
rubengreenbergparisfrance@gmail.com
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Author: cigleris
Date: 2013-05-09 14:42
And now they are looking to audition for the principal seat again...
Peter Cigleris
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Author: OpusII
Date: 2013-05-10 09:31
Bes=Bb
Es=Eb
La=A
Do=C
Arno Piters is the current Eb clarinet player, http://www.concertgebouworkest.nl/en/orchestra/musician/clarinet/Piters-Arno/
Great clarinet player!
Eddy
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Author: Alphie
Date: 2013-05-10 10:38
The modern terms in Europe's German-related languages for B/Bb are B/Bes! Earlier the traditional terms were H/B. So today there is some confusion when somebody says "B," whether they mean B or Bb.
Alphie
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2013-05-10 14:23
Many thanks. I didn't notice that Bb was missing from the list. Brain cells keep dying.
Ken Shaw
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