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Author: Justin Willsey ★2017
Date: 2013-04-26 00:17
I just received this mouthpiece, which I purchased "new" online. I have not played a single note on it. Is it just me, or does the appearance of the table make the "new" designation a bit iffy? I realize mouthpiece trials happen, and so forth, but I expect a more pristine appearance when I'm paying for a new piece of equipment. This is a Rico Reserve X0; the vendor shall remain nameless at this point in time. Thanks for your input!
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Author: Steven Ocone
Date: 2013-04-26 11:17
I'm not familiar with the Rico mouthpieces. I know that the Vandoren mouthpieces are made on a computer controlled lathe. After the lathe they do not want any hand work. Thus the table is not perfectly smooth but has fine markings from the cutter on the lathe.
Steve Ocone
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2013-04-26 15:41
Without the picture I'm going to guess that there are some indications that reeds were already used on it.
Though we might want pristine equipment, we also want (NEED) to try out mouthpieces and clarinets BEFORE we buy to ensure compatibility to our way of playing.
I for one am wiling to accept equipment that has been played before as long as there is no physical anomaly that causes it to perform at a level less than intended.
.......................Paul Aviles
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2013-04-26 17:46
Quote:
Though we might want pristine equipment, we also want (NEED) to try out mouthpieces and clarinets BEFORE we buy to ensure compatibility to our way of playing.
I for one am wiling to accept equipment that has been played before as long as there is no physical anomaly that causes it to perform at a level less than intended. To sorta throw a monkey wrench in here, it's hard to tell if it's performing at a level less than intended unless you have another pristine mouthpiece to compare it to. And even then, the playing differences may have nothing to do with the table, but might be to slight deviations in the internals of the mouthpieces.
My thoughts? Play it. If you think the sound is worth the $$$ (disregard whether it's new or used), keep it. If not, THEN maybe try another and see if it's the table that made the difference. You might send it back expecting a pristine mouthpiece to better and you may have sent back a mouthpiece that agrees with you more than other "pristine" examples based on how it looks.
Alexi
US Army Japan Band
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Author: Justin Willsey ★2017
Date: 2013-04-26 23:55
Thanks for your input, everyone. I do like the way the mouthpiece plays very much.
I suppose my experience just goes to show that the new/used designation is not always a clear one. When a vendor sells both "new" and "used" mouthpieces, there are bound to be some grey area pieces such as the one I received.
JW
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Author: The Doctor ★2017
Date: 2013-04-27 02:11
(Disclaimer- I sell Chedeville(R) brand CNC machined mouthpieces)
At least in my experience computerized CNC machining can not make a perfectly "smooth" table - there are minute tool mark patterns. It takes a separate computerized milling machine or burnishig machine to totally smooth out the table. The evenness of the table and the lay in my experience are the important determinants and not the "smoothness" of a table.
Significant scratching IMO is not acceptable in a mouthpiece sold as "new" but you must realize that performance is the primary
goal and with any hand finishing steps one mouthpiece may differ from a similar mouthpiece.
It is also my opinion that all CNC computer lathed mouthpieces should receive some hand finishing steps because there are areas of meeting bevels that absolutely cannot be smooth - if smoothness is a design feature.
L. Omar Hendersono
www.ChedevilleMP.com
www.DoctorsProd.com
Post Edited (2013-04-27 02:18)
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2013-04-27 21:00
It can't be too old, they've just recentlly began production on those, a year or two ago. Chances are they got it back from a try out and didn't do a great job in cleaning it up. If you havne't already, wash it in warm water with a mild hand soap and try it, if you love it don't worry about it, if not, clean it up and return it, with a nasty note about the condition you received it.
ESP eddiesclarinet.com
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