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Selmer early model

Author: ronnie
Date: 2013-04-02 07:13

I have a Selmer clarinet (modified Boehm) 3 RH pinky keys Eb: C: Alt C#: LH keys B: Eb: Alt Eb. 3 pads at bottom of lower joint. Rather unusual key set up. Has anybody knowledge of this model instrument.

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Re: Selmer early model

Author: Chris P
Date: 2013-04-02 08:49

What's the serial number (just the letter prefix and/or first two numbers, eg. K88xx)?

Can you post a photo of it?

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.

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Re: Selmer early model

Author: ronnie
Date: 2013-04-02 09:09
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Chris, numbers very faint possible K7 or 47. Keywork pics attached
(A dusting of talcum powder has shown up what appears to be L47)

Post Edited (2013-04-02 09:28)

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Re: Selmer early model

Author: Chris P
Date: 2013-04-02 09:46

Is the RH F#/C# key linked to the F/C key?

What I can see from the photos is the F/C key closes its two pads together and the LH E/B lever closes just the upper F/C pad for an E-F#/B-C# trill as found on simple/Albert systems (hold the LH E/B lever down and trill with the RH F/C touch), but if the RH F#/C# touch doesn't close the F/C key, then it's pretty redundant.

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.

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Re: Selmer early model

Author: ronnie
Date: 2013-04-02 09:57

RH F#/C# is linked to the F/C key. Your interpretation regarding key operation is spot on.

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Re: Selmer early model

Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2013-04-02 12:16

It looks like an adaptation of the patent mechanism. If so, it will ease the playing in keys with sharps, at the cost of requiring both little fingers for low E/third line B.

Ken Shaw

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Re: Selmer early model

Author: Chris P
Date: 2013-04-02 14:45

The slurred C#s to Bs in the clarinet solo in Ravel's Bolero will be very smooth on this clarinet.

You can play E/B as xxx E/B|xxx F/C
and F#/C# played as xxx E/B|xxx

Just like Albert/simple systems (and German and Oehler systems) with the "Patent C#" mechanism, releasing the RH F/C key while holding down the LH E/B lever will give F#/C#. The downside with this arrangement is you don't have a single touch E/B so you will always have to put the right hand F/C key down for them. But unlike Albert/simple/German/Oehlers, you have a RH F#/C# touch which is nice, but it's only useful for that purpose as you can't slur to E/B from it easily.

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.

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Re: Selmer early model

Author: ronnie
Date: 2013-04-03 06:36

Thanks Ken and Chris, what intrigued me the most was that I had never seen this key pattern before which makes it rather special I guess.
Cheers
ron

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Re: Selmer early model

Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2013-04-03 23:48

Ron -

I'd never seen it before either. It may have been a custom order.

Ken Shaw

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