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Author: Sara
Date: 2001-03-20 02:14
I was looking for a new ligatre and my teacher suggested this as an alternative because, well I have a couple already but none to my full satisfaction. My BG super rel is to bright and my Rovner is too damp and my Luyben a little less bright than the BG but still not damp enough for my tastes.
I did do a search but the result didn't really explain the ligature at all and why is it three times more expensive than the others that Rovner makes.
oh and if you have a different, if possible, cheaper suggestion, please don't hesitate to help out a fellow clarinetest!
LOL Sara
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Author: Miles
Date: 2001-03-20 02:28
Hello Sara,
You should try the new Vandoren Optimum Ligature. It will cost you around $42.95. Not too cheap but this one really works great.Or you could just use string and tie your reed to the mpc.
Miles
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Author: William
Date: 2001-03-20 03:22
Sara, I second Miles recomendation to try the Optimun Lig (VanDoren). You have three choices for the kind of "plate" to use--my favorite is the parallel-rail (Bonade copy) insert plate. I use it with my Chicago Kaspar #14 and Greg Smith Chedavell 1* mouthpiecies with #4 V-12s. Good luck!!!!!!!!!
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Author: Anji
Date: 2001-03-20 13:25
Hiya Sara,
Sounds like you have a refined ear.
I chose the ED II, because it has a high "Fiddle-factor" and can be adjusted to (hopefully) suit your taste.
I experimented with Rubber "O-rings" from plumbing supply and string ligatures but went with the Rovner because it was so easy to use.
My teacher uses the Vandy Optimum, but broke it by overtightening. It was out for nearly six weeks. The Rovner is very unlikely to break, but is certainly more extensible.
Have you tried the Gigliotti lig? It is very inexpensive incomparison to the other designs mentioned, and really works well.
anji
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Author: Linda
Date: 2001-03-20 13:50
I use the Eddie Daniels II, Gregory Smith 1+ mouthpiece, R13, Zonda #3 reeds!!
Works the best for me, and I have invested in a lot of them
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Author: Ken Shaw
Date: 2001-03-20 14:35
Sara -
Rovner makes a "lite" model -- thinner material and a cutout over the reed bark. I use one on my practice horn that I keep assembled for spur-of-the-moment noodling. It's quite a bit less expensive than the Eddie Daniels ligature and is intermediate in brightness between the standard Rovner and the BG Super Revalation.
String is free and works better than any ligature....
Best regards.
Ken Shaw
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Author: Phil
Date: 2001-03-20 22:54
i could also reccomend the Charles Bay Ligature. i use one with my greg smith 1* and vandoren #4 V12's. I get a free, ringing sounds thst wonderful. I also use string from time to time and with some solo work. I use the hand wrap with string when i usethe Opera #4 reeds and the greg smith 1*. Wonderful response and projection.
You've already tried the Luyben. HOWEVER I would reccomend you trying this little adjustment with the Luyben. Instead of putting on the luyben with the screws on the back side, the "inverted" style, try turning the lig around with the screws on the same side as the reed, and tighten as much as possible. It seems a little wierd, but the sound is COMPLETELY different when youdo this. It may even sound better than putting it on the correct way. I tried it when my teacher reccomend it to me. He uses the luyben with the St. Louis Symphony and in this manner.
It's a wierd tirck, but hey, I say if you're experimenting, try everything.
Phil
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Author: John Gould
Date: 2001-03-21 02:55
The ED IIs are really good ligs. I've have two of them, and like them a lot.
Another one that I've always like is the Winslow. The different ways to set the little rubber tips really does seem to change the sound. I used to play with a tenor player who used part of a hose clamp from a non-working Buick Centurion. He sounded "car-ish". John G.
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Author: Karen
Date: 2001-03-21 15:09
I have to agree with the fans of the Vandoren Optimum ligature. I ordered about 6 ligatures on approval last year, including a BG regular and revelation, and several others. I previously played a Rovner, and I have never looked back!
Remember also that the reed, mouthpiece, ligature combination is unique for everyone! Follow what you feel most comfortable with, not what some "expert" says is best. That is the advice that I give to my students!
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Author: Ginny
Date: 2001-03-21 15:44
My optimum was a big improvement over the Rovner. It was about $42 and my sound improved more than 42 hours of practice worth, so a bargain at a dollar an hour!
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Author: Mario
Date: 2001-03-21 16:45
I am also a user of ED II. Just love them! I use them with no plate and the flap over the rail: velvety and dark, with no apparant degradation in response. It is a ligature that you can fiddle with a lot indeed.
I have a nice collections including several fabric ligatures (BG SR, ED II are examples), a few floating rails (Charles Bay, Sprigg), a couple of exotic design (Oligature, Optimum), the usual stuff (inverted or not). It took me a long time to find the right combination. Over time, as I developped as a clarinetist, my preferences changed. Ligatures are inexpensive and can have quite an impact. Collect them! Keep experimenting!
In general, the more metal the brighter and more responsive the ligature; the more fabric the darker and more sluggish the ligature. Folks at BG and Rovner are working hard at finding the right combination.
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Author: beejay
Date: 2001-03-21 19:23
I've tried many, and found the Spriggs best for me. It is exceptionally clear and free-blowing.
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Author: Daniel
Date: 2001-03-27 04:16
My favorite ligature is the old Kaspar ligs. Nothing i've tried has ever been as good. The Bay ligs are close copies. And the Spriggs ligatures are the best on-the-market ligs that come the closest to the Kaspars.
The Kaspar has a wonderful core to the sound, fantastic articulation, great projection.
The Spriggs has all the same qualities, but at a lesser degree (the lowest being the core of the sound). And it's a little brighter.
The Bays (i have a Gold Covered) are also very close but even lesser in levels than the Spriggs. The regular ones i find to be too bright, but the Covered ligs have a nice dark sound. Great for chamber music.
I also sometimes use a Rovner Eddie Daniels II. Nice dark rich tone, and projection, but i don't remember the articulation as been high on my scale.
Daniel
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