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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2001-03-17 17:31
Triébert WWI fl Paris 1810-early 20c.
Workshop established by (1) Georg Ludwig Wilhelm Triebert (b Stomdorf bei Alsfeld / Hessen 24 February 1770; d Paris 5 June 1848), later Frenchified as 'Guillaume Triébert' who trained (? in Laubach) as cabinet-maker; 1804 migrated on foot to Paris, where his 'livret' (police permit) dated 11 thermidor an XII (29 July 1804) was issued; he worked first for an 'ébéniste' (cabinet-maker); 1804 working for (1) N. Viennen (see WINNEN); 1810 married, became 'maître-facteur' and established; 1811 granted French citizenship; 1834 his oboes were declared by the Paris Exhibition jury to be superior to all the others there. Recognized as the outstanding oboe maker of his time; c1823 redesigned the BIZEY-model of baritone oboe for the eminent player Vogt. Of his two sons who subsequently became his successors, the elder (2) Charles Louis (b Paris 31 October 1810; d Gravelle St Maurice 18 July 1867) was primarily a professional oboist and teacher, but was acknowledged as being responsible for much of the technical development. The younger son (3) Frédéric (b Paris 8 May/June 1813; d ibid 19 March 1878) who trained as a metal engraver, also studied oboe; 1839 oboist at Opéra comique; 1845 married, when described as 'facteur d'instruments de musique' and probably by now successor to father; 1845 signatory of letter to War Ministry protesting about (2) A. SAX; 1853 as 'Triébert & Cie.' with MARZOLI in partnership for a period of ten years; 1855 collaboration with BOEHM over the application of his system of keywork to tubes that he had supplied of both oboe and bassoon; 1855 his prospectus listed a complete range of oboes and bassoons, including many with Boehm-system keywork; 1867 on the death of (2) Charles, LORÉE became foreman; 1872 patent under the name of (3) Frédéric's son (4) Raoul (who however does not appear to have been involved in the factory); c1875 development of the 'système 6' oboe model, later known as 'Conservatoire' system. 1878 on the sudden death of (3) Frédéric, the firm was initially directed by Mme C. Dehais before being bought by F. PARIS, a former key-maker with the firm; 1881 after bankruptcy, Lorée left to become established independently, while the firm (and marque) was bought by GAUTROT AÎNÉ, who in 1883 were themselves taken over by COUESNON; as late as 1934 Couesnon was advertising 'perce Triébert' (Triébert bore) oboes stamped with mark [d]. (3) Frédéric and his brother (2) Charles have been considered primarily responsible for the development of the modern oboe. See also BARRET, JANCOURT, (2) F.W. Kruspe.
MARK:
[ a: ?identifiable with (1) ] TRIEBERT / (barbican-tower with 3 merlons) / A PARIS
[ b: ?identifiable with (2 ) ] BREVETÉ / (barbican with 3 merlons) TRIEBERT / A PARIS
[ c: c1878-1881 ] TRIEBERT / F. PARIS succr. / PARIS
[ d: ?identifiable with later proprietors of the firm ] BREVETÉ / (barbican with 4 merlons) TRIEBERT / A PARIS
ADDRESS:
1810: rue St Georges 154;
1810-30 rue Guénégaud 26;
1830-37: rue Dauphine 26;
1837-55: rue Montmartre 132; 1
855: rue Montmartre 130;
1855-62: 'Triébert' & Cie.', rue St Joseph 11:
1863/64-1878: rue de Tracy 6.
INVENTION:
1847: 'Bee-pompe avec table mobile et presse-anches' (metal mouthpiece for clarinet with mobile lay and screw ligature); gouging machine 'avec système de rappel à plan incliné' (return system with inclined bed); oboes in A, high Eb; 'hautbois pastoral' (improved musette) in G, Ab.
PATENT:
1847 (F) #6937: 'clarinette multiphonique' (combination clarinet in A/Bb/C)
1849 (F) #8511: new oboe thumb-plate key-mechanism
1851: clarinet mouthpiece with adjustable ligature
1872 (F) #94569 (Raoul Triébert): improvements to oboe, bassoon.
EXHIBITION: Paris 1827 (flute with low C key, oboe, english horn, baritone oboe), 1834, 1839, 1844 (gouging machine), 1849, 1855, 1867 (clarinet with improved metal mouthpiece, Boehm system oboe, bassoon); London 1851, 1862.
Excerpted from The New Langwill Index
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Author: Stuart A. Inselman
Date: 2001-03-19 00:36
Thankyou for the history, is the Triebert still made? any idea of value? I finally sprung for an R-13, and if I wanted to sell my Triebert have no idea of its value.
Stuart
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Author: Dee
Date: 2001-03-19 01:46
Do search on eBay to see what they typically go for. I think it's under $200 probably closer to $100. However if you take your time and advertise locally, you should be able to get a bit more especially if it is in good condition.
I don't think they are still made.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2001-03-19 02:13
Triebert WWI fl Paris 1810-early 20c.
fl stands for "flourished" - they stopped being a company sometime in the early 20th century.
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Author: Jobsys
Date: 2004-08-09 09:24
I am deeply interested in your "Info" Bulletin.
I have an ancient clarinet stamped "A Marzoli Paris"
Could you point me in the right direction to find out more on this manufacturer? Could Triebert et Cie have worked on my clarinet?
John O'Brien
Post Edited (2004-08-09 19:19)
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