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Author: pacherry
Date: 2013-02-24 13:11
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Can anyone help me identify this clarinet? It appears to be wood and has a 7 digit serial number, but I can't seem to locate it on any of the available serial number lists. There is some evidence that it may be a student model buffet, but I don't know keywork well enough to identify it and it has no stamp other than the serial number.
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Author: Tobin
Date: 2013-02-24 13:18
Hi Pachberry,
I'm sorry to say that, from the photos, it doesn't appear to be wood to me at all. The serial number appears pressed into material, which I'm guessing is brushed ABS or plastic.
I could be wrong. If you want the instrument identified, a pic of the upper joint logo (if there is one) would be helpful!
James
PS -- I guessing a Selmer model, but I'm not sure where my guess is coming from. Something about the key design?
Gnothi Seauton
Post Edited (2013-02-24 13:21)
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Author: pacherry
Date: 2013-02-24 13:21
No harm done yet. I was investigating before purchasing. :D As I said, there is no logo on the upper joint, only the serial number. I hadn't considered that they may have brushed the plastic to look like wood. Thanks for the suggestion. So hard to tell when you're looking at THAT site.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2013-02-24 13:33
It looks a bit like an Armstrong/Artley, but I'd like to see more of the keywork and touchpieces to say for definite. It's definitely not a Buffet B12 as the keywork on them is much better made and has better definition.
The pad cups on this one are pointed and stamped out from sheet metal instead of being machined and don't line up too well with the points on the key arms which is what is seen on Armstrong/Artley clarinets. Bundys had domed pad cups and they didn't have brushed plastic bodies like this.
Artley 17S clarinets had smooth socket rings (like B&H Imperial 926 and 1010s) - maybe other models above that had decorative ones like this, but both Armstrong and Artleys have the same keywork which has an adjusting screw on the RH F/C key tail where it links to the LH F/C lever. Has to be noted this wasn't their best feature as it was a plastic adjusting screw and the slot was very easily obliterated, rendering it useless.
The Artley 17S also has a black plastic thumb tube instead of the usual metal one and the logos weren't stamped too well so they soon wore out. But they're not bad clarinets for beginners or for marching band use.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
Post Edited (2013-02-24 14:21)
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Author: pacherry
Date: 2013-02-24 14:49
Thank you for your help Chris. I would have never figured all of that out on my own.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2013-02-24 19:30
I just checked some Artley 18S clarinets on eBay (there's one listed there with detailed photos) and the keywork and socket rings are identical to the photos in the original post.
Conn keywork is far more robust looking compared to this one.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
Post Edited (2013-02-24 19:31)
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Author: Tony F
Date: 2013-02-24 20:40
Attachment: Henkin Clarinet 28S.pdf (1169k)
I'm sure that what you have there is a Henkin 28S. I have one just like it. In good playing order a good student instrument with a tendency to play a bit flat. OK when warmed up.
Tony F.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2013-02-24 20:49
That Henkin clarinet is an Artley/Armstrong stencil - so again it's the same thing.
I'm surprised they play flat as Artleys are supplied with a 63mm barrel which is ridiculously short.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
Post Edited (2013-02-24 20:51)
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Author: Tony F
Date: 2013-02-25 03:09
Hi Chris,
That explains why mine was flat. It came with a 67mm barrel. I swapped it with a spare barrel from my junk pile and its now spot on with 1mm pullout. Sounds better with the replacement barrel as well.
Tony F.
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Author: Temo
Date: 2021-07-21 08:02
Hi, I have a clarinet that only has number "24" engraved on it. It is also on the back of the keys. I can't seem to find any other name. Can anyone help me understand what it is? It was a gift to my husband.
Post Edited (2021-07-21 08:04)
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Author: Bf1964
Date: 2021-07-24 06:39
I have come across a wooden, 4 ring, Jules Legris Paris France stamped A clarinet (I think). It has rollers on the lower keys
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