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Author: Symphonyduck
Date: 2013-02-09 05:49
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I need some help identifying this interesting ligature that I found included with an R13 from the early 1980s. It is really unusual with Teflon tabs on the side, and 6 independent rockers holding the reed on. No other identifying marks than a "D2" or " DZ" inscribed on the interior. Has anyone else seen one of these before?
Thanks!
Post Edited (2013-02-09 05:52)
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Author: bethmhil
Date: 2013-02-09 15:52
I can't recall what the brand is, but I remember seeing one of these on an auction website a few months ago. If it is the same one I saw, I think you've got a real chunk of change there... I remember that it sold for a very high price.
BMH
Illinois State University, BME and BM Performance
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Author: Ed
Date: 2013-02-09 17:35
That is the Winslow ligature.
I have never played one, but know people who really liked them. There is a company- Saxxas making a version of these. http://www.saxxas.eu/ligature.html
Post Edited (2013-02-09 18:39)
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2013-02-09 17:40
It's a Winston ligature, which sold for nearly $100. The idea was that the reed was contacted only by the 6 plungers, which had rubber collars that gave a cushioned pressure on the reed. You tightened the ligature until the cushions were halfway compressed.
The kit included a fiddly tool that let you remove one or more of the plungers, which changed the response. I found that it worked best with all 6 in place.
It was extremely heavy, which killed some of the resonance, but otherwise played very well. Larry Combs used one briefly. The problem was that the plunger tips gouged into the cane and quickly ruined the reed, but they were great while the reed lasted.
The one in the photos is the second iteration. The original had a thick metal plate that held the plungers.
The inventor has died, but I believe the ligature is still made somewhere in Germany. Unfortunately, I've lost the URL.
Ken Shaw
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Author: William
Date: 2013-02-09 20:42
Ken, the correct name is, "Winslow", made by my friend, John Winslow. The ligature pictured is the improved model and was not all that heavy. The original ligs with the seperate plate was much heavier and somewhat bulky getting in the way of your chin. I do not think that the weight "killed the resonance" at all. The other big disadvantage of the Winslow lig was it's tendency to slip out of adjustment if the mouthpiece needed to be switched between clarinets. Otherwise, the Winslow ligature was the most responsive ligature in terms of overtones produced in the sound. I did not like the ligature on the soprano clarinet, but use it on my bass clarinet, eb clarinet and all of my saxophones. Fortunately, John made sure I had a "lifetime supply" of all the extras--bumpers (red, black and grey), C clamps, top screws and the different kinds of pins used.s
I may be wrong, but I think the pictured ligature is one of his clarinet models.
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2013-02-10 18:53
William -
Thanks for the correction. My brain misfired. I have the original and improved models for Bb and the improved model for bass, for which I've seen outrageous offering prices.
For me, the improved played better than the original on Bb, but I think string plays best, closely followed by an Opperman-adjusted $5 Martin.
Ken Shaw
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Author: sdr
Date: 2013-02-10 20:56
I had one of these given to me recently with only 3 pins --- 2 at the bottom and one centered at the top --- and totally rotted rubber bumpers. Judging by the discussion above, I must have an early version because it's a beast in size and weight, and a bit fussy to get positioned properly on the reed. I've replaced the bumpers with small vinyl bumpers used to keep kitchen cabinets from slamming shut. They work fairly well but something softer would be better. I am open to suggestions here. I'd also be very interested to get 3 more of the bumper pins with their retaining clips so I could try other configurations of bumpers. Anyone with parts or suggestions, please let me know.
Thanks.
-sdr
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