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Author: kiseoglee
Date: 2013-01-02 02:31
I'm playing Selmer Signature milenium edition (gold-plated keys) and recently, the upper body was terribly severed.
I'l like to replace upper joint rather than repairing it since it has multiple cracks already.
Henri Selmer company in France can manage it?
Is there a person who replace total joint preserving used keys?
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Author: donald
Date: 2013-01-02 09:48
Go to the people you bought the clarinet from and they should be able to contact the Selmer importers for Korea. Why ask us?
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2013-01-02 16:55
I hear that there are a few specialty shops for winds located around the big performing arts center there in Seoul that should be able to help you.
Off hand I can't imagine that it would be a problem to take your existing posts and keys and put them on a new upper joint. However without a warranty to cover this (and I don't think Selmer was ever good about this) it will be rather expensive.
.............Paul Aviles
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2013-01-02 17:15
Just the keys will be transplanted onto a readily sprung and pillared joint of the same model (with some refitting of the key barrels and reseating the pads).
Chances are transplanting the already drilled and faced pillars from one joint onto another joint will cause problems with them lining up properly so that's usually more hassle than it's worth.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Steven Ocone
Date: 2013-01-03 23:27
Posts are mounted on the instrument before they are drilled and faced. Just the keys would be transferred. All the pads would need to be replaced.
Steve Ocone
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2013-01-04 00:15
Not always - if the pads aren't damaged then they won't need replacing, only reseating.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Steven Ocone
Date: 2013-01-04 23:03
Chris P wrote:
> Not always - if the pads aren't damaged then they won't need
> replacing, only reseating.
>
I'll have to respectfully disagree.
Steve Ocone
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2013-01-05 09:42
Why would you need to change all the pads?
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Caroline Smale
Date: 2013-01-05 19:08
It largely depends on the precision and accuracy of the manufacturing process.
If the pads are virtually new and the instrument built to the close tolerances of Yamaha then it can work.
I doubt if all manufacturers are quite as consistent as Yamaha.
For warranty work I would always replace the pads.
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2013-01-05 19:45
I need some more information here but I assume the posts are gold plated as well. It would be a shame to lose those.
I certainly agree with the above comments on alignment but wouldn't there be a greater issue of tolerances between posts that are not plated in the same manner? I recall that more than one tech refused re-plating keys based solely on this tolerance issue.
.................Paul Aviles
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Author: Steven Ocone
Date: 2013-01-06 00:16
Why the pads need to be changed.
The pad forms an impression soon after it is installed. If the key is then placed on another horn, the chances that the impression will coincide with the rim of the new tone hole is almost nil. Thus you will have two overlapping impressions and two leaks where they intersect. The clarinet might play, but it wouldn't be an acceptable repair in my shop. Even when a key is bent and I realign it I often find it necessary to replace the pad. If I was changing over the keys in my shop, it would be quicker to just replace all the pads, then figure out which ones might be OK.
Steve Ocone
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2013-01-06 08:33
I suppose it depends on how soft the pads are as to how much of an impression they take - some skin pads are very taut and don't take much of an impression while others can be as soft as marshmallows.
I've transplanted several Greenline top joints and the existing pads all seated onto the new top joints very well as they weren't too soft like some skin pads can be. Same with Yamaha clarinets - the existing pads didn't take much to have them seating on the replacement joint.
Even transplanted a top joint on a Yamaha Custom oboe and all the pads (both cork and skin) seated very well without having to change any. Maybe these were the few instances where things were built well enough and the job was made easier as a result.
So long as they've used the same tonehole cutters so the bedplace crowns are the same and the keywork hasn't suffered too much trauma as well as the pads being nice and firm, then the job of transplanting the keys and reseating the pads is an easy one.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Vova Doob(UA)
Date: 2013-01-06 10:30
Hi! My friend Brad Terry told that he replaced full mechanics in his Selmer Series 9 model of 1959 in Selmer Company in 2007 year, so, if You want to replace full joint, will be better, if you`ll contact with manufacturer directly.
They know what need to replace better than others!
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