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Author: cigleris
Date: 2013-01-02 05:49
Wondered if anyone has tried this and or owns one. What are your thoughts?
Peter Cigleris
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2013-01-02 08:41
For some reason, I expected it to look somehow ... asymmetrical. ![[tongue]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie6.gif)
Compared to the Star (which seems to have the same ™ attributes) it looks rather pricey.
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Ben
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2013-01-02 16:48
Interesting idea (really look at the picture of it installed on a mouthpiece) covering the whole butt of the reed. Though there is no mention of an insert (probably does not utilize one).
So far, I've like ligatures that are both minimalist as far as coverage and those that cover a large portion of the reed. But for the most part the one common factor for me has been the double bars running parallel with the grain (ala the Bonade ligature). If there is no insert in this one I'd wait.
Though I appreciate that it was named after his West Highland Terrier.
...................Paul Aviles
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Author: bmcgar ★2017
Date: 2013-01-02 19:48
In the picture, it sure looks as if it's installed on an eefer mouthpiece, which accounts for why the ligature seems as if it covers the butt of the reed.
If I'm wrong, that's one heck of a big tightening nut!
B.
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2013-01-02 21:15
The written description says, "sizable, and marvelous." I assume that first parts means that it is BIG.
.................Paul Aviles
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2013-01-02 23:24
If it's the one I'm thinking of, covering the whole but of the reed, I did try it out. Rovner useally sends any new design to try out to give him my opinion. For me it covered my sound to much, dampened it. But I think someone that tends to play with a brighter or shriller tone might find it helps soften the and warm up their tone. The best way to know is to try one. Get one from him or a mail order store that will let you return it within a few weeks if you don't like it. You can usually tell after trying it with 3-4 different reeds.
ESP eddiesclarinet.com
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2025-01-11 03:55
I have come across a commonality with better ligatures and wanted to address this one in particular.....BECAUSE it is unusual.
but first
The problem with holding a reed on the clarinet mouthpiece is that the mouthpiece is a cone. The better solutions are both a curved shape to the "strap" that is the body of the ligature, and tightening OVER the reed so that the last and best grab can assuredly be even. It is this even tension across the stock of the reed that is the "secret" to how a ligature sounds (well, you know what I mean).
I have found the non inverted Bonade to be a sure bet for a great response.....along with many really cheap, no name ligatures that are non inverted metal types (the kind most off us already have if we haven't thrown them out). HOWEVER, there are notable inverted ligatures that work quite well to hold the reed on 'evenly' and respond with amazing vigor and great response. One is the Ventos Bambu Nova ligature (without the included metal plate).
Another is the Rovner Van Gogh. I have to say though that the precise placement of the ligature (and reed of course) along with the proper tension is PARAMOUNT for the best end results.
Given all that, I'd say the Van Gogh is quite wonderful. It plays exceptionally loud and responsive for a "material" ligature. But as mentioned above, it as ALL about how the ligature holds the reed and NOT the material (per se). Soooo, I ran across a video done at last year's NAMM where there is mention of the new LGX (a similar design principle to the Van Gogh with the addition of a "springy metal plate). I won't be able to resist a test spin on that one much longer.
I would hasten to mention that there are some practical advances Rovner has incorporated in their latest models (to include the Star Series). You'll notice "slits" in the material both long ones at the tightening rods and short ones where the edge of the reed meets the ligature. These actually help redistribute the tension throughout the material offering more evenness to how the ligature holds the reed. This makes up for the fact that they still DO NOT cut the fabric with a curve which would be best for the even pressure of the hold. But this works!
.............Paul Aviles
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Author: super20dan
Date: 2025-01-11 06:33
the periera 3d printed ligatures copy the vangogh desighn . i have 2 and they play very well
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Author: ISM
Date: 2025-01-11 08:34
I’ve liked the Rovner Star ligatures for a long time, and they are at a bargain price too.
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2025-01-12 01:21
Attachment: ligature.jpg (137k)
Wanted to include this image to illustrate the "curve" vs "straight" cut of the main body of the ligature. On the left is the Vientos Bambu Nova. On the right is the standard Rovner Dark. The straight cut is why the Rovners are "high" on the mouthpiece over the reed, and low on the mouthpiece on the top side. I'm pretty sure the Rovners could be even better if they went ahead and gave the cone of the mouthpiece the curve of ligature that it deserves.
.................Paul Aviles
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Author: lydian
Date: 2025-01-12 01:52
Tell me more about this ligature. Unlike Van Gough himself, I'm all ears.
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