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Author: CuriousClarinet
Date: 2012-10-26 22:08
So I'm looking to find some new mouthpieces to try. I currently play on a M13 lyre, but want to experiment with Clark Fobes and Pyne mouthpieces. It's hard to tell comparisions from their sites,(and I do plan on trying the mouthpieces before I go ahead and buy them) but what facing/model would you suggest from those two mouthpiece makers, knowing then I tend to like medium-ish closed facings?
*Just decided to add that I have played both Fobes and Pyne before, but I can't remember which Pyne I used, and I'm not entirely happy with the Fobes facing I've played (CF+), because it is much too open for my taste.
Post Edited (2012-10-26 22:12)
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Author: DrewSorensenMusic
Date: 2012-10-26 22:17
How you describe yourself sounds a little like my situation. I haven't tried these mouthpieces yet, but I plan on trying:
1. Clark Fobes San Francisco 2L
2. Vandoren M15 Traditional
3. Morgan RM6
All have a medium/close tip opening and a long facing curve (Morgan may be medium/medium-long). Currently I'm playing a Morgan RM10. The scale is very good, the tip is too open for me.
Drew S.
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Author: gsurosey
Date: 2012-10-26 23:23
Do you know which Fobes mouthpiece you tried? I like close stuff, too, and I play on a Fobes CWF. I looked on his web site and the lay is a little longer than a CF+ facing and the tip opening is closer (I believe it's the closest opening he makes). If you have specific questions, go ahead and send him an e-mail. He's been very responsive when I've e-mailed him (and I recently added one of his alto sax mouthpieces to my arsenal to replace my Hite Premiere).
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Author: CuriousClarinet
Date: 2012-10-26 23:46
I own a Clark Fobes San Fransisco CF+ facing. I really like the sound the mouthpiece gets, but I can't stand how open and uncontrolled the mouthpiece is. No matter what reed I use, it always sounds a little unfocused. I also use a Backun MoBa barrel, which I really enjoy playing, but the CF+ doesn't seem to play as well with it. But I'm curious about his other facings, as I really do like the sound I get from the mouthpiece.
I'm not exactly sure what Pyne I played, I believe my teacher (who owns the mouthpiece) said it was a PK medium facing, Symphonic model. But he bought the mouthpiece quite a few years ago, and not only can I not find a 'symphonic' (only symphonia) mouthpiece made by Pyne, but I can't really find a PK medium either.
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Author: Ed
Date: 2012-10-26 23:47
This chart may be helpful:
http://www.clarkwfobes.com/mp-chart.html
The CWF and 2L are good choices. I know some who like the Cicero models as well.
Pyne mouthpieces generally have asymetrical facings and play with a very different feel. FWIW- Some like them a lot, but I have not played any that work for me.
Post Edited (2012-10-27 01:25)
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Author: CuriousClarinet
Date: 2012-10-27 01:08
More info: I prefer my Vandoren M13Lyre over the CF+... Both my teacher and I agree that the Pyne mouthpiece he had played very well for me, although he personally thought it was a peticuarly good Pyne mouthpiece, he wasn't convinced if I bought one it would play the same. Can't say I remember it playing any differently then the other mouthpieces. I didn't really play it for very long, though. And I'm asking about mouthpieces because I plan to do a trial from Muncy Winds, so any mouthpieces they sell are what I'm looking at, for the most part.
Post Edited (2012-10-27 01:19)
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Author: tegonikos
Date: 2012-10-28 07:38
i try recently the vandoren masters cl4 and i think it is the best mouthpiece i ever play with.
It is worthing to give it a try
nikos
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Author: Bob Bernardo
Date: 2012-10-29 10:15
Not to confuse you, but the Pines have thicker rails and of course effects the vibrations of your reeds. As far as facings I feel a good refacer puts the rails in order then refaces the mouthpiece.
Just this alone can turn a stinky $50 Kasper or an unplayable Chedeville into a mouthpiece that answers everyones dreams.
This goes for the Pines, Morgans, M13, the new Rico's, and probably the Forbes, although I haven't played one.
In general, if you like the mouthpiece you are playing on, but you feel it's changed, have a repairman work on it.
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Author: morbius
Date: 2012-10-29 13:58
I came into possession of a Cicero Kasper; it had a beautiful sound, but was sluggish with articulation. I sent it to Greg Smith (of the Chicago Sym.) and he refaced it. Now it's wonderful. There is NOTHING like an old Kasper if you can get your hands on one. Greg's got a Kasper copy which I've been meaning to try... but they are expensive.
John Dorch
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Author: jclarinet
Date: 2012-10-30 22:44
you should definitely give the masters series mouthpieces a try. i tried the cl4 and the cl5 and they were both great. They are a bit pricy though, so if money is an issue, you might try something else.
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